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« on: September 01, 2005, 05:05:07 PM »

What a bunch of right-wing hacks. It's got Pat Robertson's Operation Blessing organization right near the top of places to donate.

http://www.fema.gov/press/2005/katrinadonations.shtm
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« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2005, 05:13:18 PM »

"In efforts to relieve human suffering we combat hunger, deprivation and physical affliction with the provision of food, clothing, shelter, medical care and other basic necessities of life. We also help facilitate the development of healthy, vibrant and self-sustaining communities by addressing larger issues of education, food security, potable water, employment, community health, and disaster mitigation projects. In every endeavor, OBI seeks to exemplify Christian compassion and benevolence while conforming to the highest standards of integrity"

How dare they.
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« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2005, 05:18:11 PM »

"In efforts to relieve human suffering we combat hunger, deprivation and physical affliction with the provision of food, clothing, shelter, medical care and other basic necessities of life. We also help facilitate the development of healthy, vibrant and self-sustaining communities by addressing larger issues of education, food security, potable water, employment, community health, and disaster mitigation projects. In every endeavor, OBI seeks to exemplify Christian compassion and benevolence while conforming to the highest standards of integrity"

How dare they.


Robertson made some crazy comments about 9/11, and agreed with Jerry Falwell's even crazier comments

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« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2005, 05:24:11 PM »

Which is a basis for refusing their aid?

Show me where in FEMA's charter that it says they are supposed to do that.
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« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2005, 05:26:24 PM »

jfern prefers people die than be helped by Robertson.

I think that says a lot about his character and values.
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« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2005, 05:31:57 PM »

There are plenty of good organizations. What's so special about Pat Robertson's organization that it deserves to be at the top, out of alphabetical order? Only the Red Cross deserves that.  Pat Robertson.
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« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2005, 05:32:37 PM »

jfern prefers people die than be helped by Robertson.

I think that says a lot about his character and values.

His website was barely getting any hits until FEMA linked to them.
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« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2005, 06:03:31 PM »

There are plenty of good organizations. What's so special about Pat Robertson's organization that it deserves to be at the top, out of alphabetical order? Only the Red Cross deserves that.  Pat Robertson.

If you look at the list, it's broken up into "Donate Cash" and "Donate Cash and/or Volunteer."  Obviously, the Red Cross and Operation Blessing are not looking for volunteers.  Sheeesh, talking about making an issue out of nothing.  You're becoming as rediculous as Miss Catholic.
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« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2005, 06:07:58 PM »

There are plenty of good organizations. What's so special about Pat Robertson's organization that it deserves to be at the top, out of alphabetical order? Only the Red Cross deserves that.  Pat Robertson.

If you look at the list, it's broken up into "Donate Cash" and "Donate Cash and/or Volunteer."  Obviously, the Red Cross and Operation Blessing are not looking for volunteers.  Sheeesh, talking about making an issue out of nothing.  You're becoming as rediculous as Miss Catholic.

They actually made it less prominent that it was before. Appearantly before it and Red Cross were at the very top on the front page of the FEMA website. What's so special about Pat Robertson that he gets to be at the top with his anti- gay, lesbian, black, feminist, and so agenda?
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« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2005, 07:33:23 PM »

At this point, all that matters is the amount and quality of the help that the organization gives - unless you can prove the help they provide is somehow inferior(meaning, the cash would be more effective if sent to a different charity), then your argument is moot.
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« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2005, 10:42:08 PM »

Isn't it unconstitutional for FEMA to link to some religious cult?
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« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2005, 10:42:49 PM »

Isn't it unconstitutional for FEMA to link to some religious cult?

No, don't be stupid.
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« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2005, 10:45:07 PM »

Isn't it unconstitutional for FEMA to link to some religious cult?

No, don't be stupid.

No, I believe it is, under a reasonable interpretation... dolt.
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« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2005, 10:48:06 PM »

Isn't it unconstitutional for FEMA to link to some religious cult?

No, don't be stupid.

No, I believe it is, under a reasonable interpretation... dolt.

The relevant section of the first amendment:

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;"

How is linking a charity which can legitimately distribute establishing a religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof?
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« Reply #14 on: September 01, 2005, 10:48:54 PM »

Isn't it unconstitutional for FEMA to link to some religious cult?

No, don't be stupid.

No, I believe it is, under a reasonable interpretation... dolt.

The relevant section of the first amendment:

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;"

How is linking a charity which can legitimately distribute establishing a religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof?

Obviously it is promoting a particular religion with governmental support.  Blatantly unconstitutional.
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« Reply #15 on: September 01, 2005, 10:49:44 PM »

So, "religious" aren't allowed to found charities and use them to respond to hurricanes?
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« Reply #16 on: September 01, 2005, 10:52:51 PM »

So, "religious" aren't allowed to found charities and use them to respond to hurricanes?

They may, but the State should remain completely aloof from such reprehensible activities.
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« Reply #17 on: September 01, 2005, 10:56:21 PM »

There are plenty of good organizations. What's so special about Pat Robertson's organization that it deserves to be at the top, out of alphabetical order? Only the Red Cross deserves that.  Pat Robertson.

If you look at the list, it's broken up into "Donate Cash" and "Donate Cash and/or Volunteer."  Obviously, the Red Cross and Operation Blessing are not looking for volunteers.  Sheeesh, talking about making an issue out of nothing.  You're becoming as rediculous as Miss Catholic.
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« Reply #18 on: September 01, 2005, 10:56:41 PM »

So, "religious" aren't allowed to found charities and use them to respond to hurricanes?

They may, but the State should remain completely aloof from such reprehensible activities.

It's reprehensible to help people?
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« Reply #19 on: September 01, 2005, 10:59:17 PM »

So, "religious" aren't allowed to found charities and use them to respond to hurricanes?

They may, but the State should remain completely aloof from such reprehensible activities.

It's reprehensible to help people?

I was refering to their religious prosletizing, which is of course the real purpose of their 'help'.
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« Reply #20 on: September 02, 2005, 07:07:55 AM »

So, "religious" aren't allowed to found charities and use them to respond to hurricanes?

They may, but the State should remain completely aloof from such reprehensible activities.

It's reprehensible to help people?

I was refering to their religious prosletizing, which is of course the real purpose of their 'help'.

80% of people in this country are already Christians, so they don't have much prosyletizing to do when they are helping people here. You really do hate religious people, you know that, right?
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« Reply #21 on: September 02, 2005, 09:53:23 AM »

80% of people in this country are already Christians, so they don't have much prosyletizing to do when they are helping people here. You really do hate religious people, you know that, right?

He hates a lot of things.
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