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« on: October 11, 2017, 08:12:29 PM »

If O'Malley is to have a realist chance of becoming the presidential nominee, which Democrats oughtn't run?
I don't say that the primaries mustn't be competitive; O'Malley should just have a realistic chance to win.
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« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2017, 09:10:47 PM »

Well, he'd probably win the nomination against John Bel Edwards, Julian Castro, or Mark Zuckerberg.
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« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2017, 10:00:01 AM »

Only in 2017 would we be discussing the nomination of a relatively young, successful two-term governor as if it were outlandish or unrealistic.
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« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2017, 04:47:56 AM »

Only in 2017 would we be discussing the nomination of a relatively young, successful two-term governor as if it were outlandish or unrealistic.

Do you think it is realistic to assume that O'Malley has a real chance?
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« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2017, 05:00:48 AM »

Only in 2017 would we be discussing the nomination of a relatively young, successful two-term governor as if it were outlandish or unrealistic.

Do you think it is realistic to assume that O'Malley has a real chance?

Well, more of a chance than Bobby Jindal. Tongue
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« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2017, 05:56:24 AM »

I actually had high hopes for O'Malley before the 2016 primaries started but his effort was so robotic and uninspiring. He just faltered completely. He would need to bring an entirely different attitude if he is to have any chance at all.
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« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2017, 10:55:40 AM »

Only in 2017 would we be discussing the nomination of a relatively young, successful two-term governor as if it were outlandish or unrealistic.

Do you think it is realistic to assume that O'Malley has a real chance?

Of course he has a realistic shot.

His 2016 campaign was an awkward mess -- much like Bill Clinton's 1988 convention speech. Coming off as boring or uncharismatic four years ahead of time doesn't ruin your chances for life. With a better campaign infrastructure and speaking personality (which he's likely to have since he'd almost certainly take 2020 more seriously than 2016) he wouldn't be unstoppable, but he'd be a formidable candidate anyone would hate to run against.
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« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2017, 11:03:16 AM »

Only in 2017 would we be discussing the nomination of a relatively young, successful two-term governor as if it were outlandish or unrealistic.

Do you think it is realistic to assume that O'Malley has a real chance?

Of course he has a realistic shot.

His 2016 campaign was an awkward mess -- much like Bill Clinton's 1988 convention speech. Coming off as boring or uncharismatic four years ahead of time doesn't ruin your chances for life. With a better campaign infrastructure and speaking personality (which he's likely to have since he'd almost certainly take 2020 more seriously than 2016) he wouldn't be unstoppable, but he'd be a formidable candidate anyone would hate to run against.

Yep. We'll see what happens, but he should've run for Senate in 2016 instead.
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« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2017, 11:24:05 AM »

Only in 2017 would we be discussing the nomination of a relatively young, successful two-term governor as if it were outlandish or unrealistic.

Do you think it is realistic to assume that O'Malley has a real chance?

Of course he has a realistic shot.

His 2016 campaign was an awkward mess -- much like Bill Clinton's 1988 convention speech. Coming off as boring or uncharismatic four years ahead of time doesn't ruin your chances for life. With a better campaign infrastructure and speaking personality (which he's likely to have since he'd almost certainly take 2020 more seriously than 2016) he wouldn't be unstoppable, but he'd be a formidable candidate anyone would hate to run against.

^I wouldn't count o'malley out. I'd easily put him in the dark horse corner
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« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2017, 11:07:13 AM »

I actually had high hopes for O'Malley before the 2016 primaries started but his effort was so robotic and uninspiring. He just faltered completely. He would need to bring an entirely different attitude if he is to have any chance at all.
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« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2017, 01:50:57 PM »

O'Malley is stuck with a "LOSER" image.  It's not just that he got no support; it's that he didn't appear to stand for anything out of the ordinary, or present some extraordinary qualification to be the Democratic Presidential nominee.

If he hadn't run in 2016, he'd be a curiosity.  Because he DID run, and ran so poorly, he's been judged as a candidate without a constituency.  He didn't even "divide" the anti-Hillary vote with Bernie.  If O'Malley had, for example, gotten half the vote Sanders had gotten, he'd be viewed as a guy who got SOME traction, and had SOME following, but that's not the case. 
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« Reply #11 on: October 14, 2017, 08:12:05 PM »

He didn't even "divide" the anti-Hillary vote with Bernie.  If O'Malley had, for example, gotten half the vote Sanders had gotten, he'd be viewed as a guy who got SOME traction, and had SOME following, but that's not the case. 

O'Malley followers ride single file to hide the fact that there's only one of them.
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« Reply #12 on: October 14, 2017, 08:48:54 PM »

O'Malley is stuck with a "LOSER" image.  It's not just that he got no support; it's that he didn't appear to stand for anything out of the ordinary, or present some extraordinary qualification to be the Democratic Presidential nominee.

If he hadn't run in 2016, he'd be a curiosity.  Because he DID run, and ran so poorly, he's been judged as a candidate without a constituency.  He didn't even "divide" the anti-Hillary vote with Bernie.  If O'Malley had, for example, gotten half the vote Sanders had gotten, he'd be viewed as a guy who got SOME traction, and had SOME following, but that's not the case. 

What was his best county in the 2016 primary? He got over 110,000 votes, which isn't that bad. Those votes must have come from somewhere.
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« Reply #13 on: October 14, 2017, 08:54:37 PM »

O'Malley is stuck with a "LOSER" image.  It's not just that he got no support; it's that he didn't appear to stand for anything out of the ordinary, or present some extraordinary qualification to be the Democratic Presidential nominee.

If he hadn't run in 2016, he'd be a curiosity.  Because he DID run, and ran so poorly, he's been judged as a candidate without a constituency.  He didn't even "divide" the anti-Hillary vote with Bernie.  If O'Malley had, for example, gotten half the vote Sanders had gotten, he'd be viewed as a guy who got SOME traction, and had SOME following, but that's not the case. 

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« Reply #14 on: October 14, 2017, 09:03:59 PM »

O'Malley is stuck with a "LOSER" image.  It's not just that he got no support; it's that he didn't appear to stand for anything out of the ordinary, or present some extraordinary qualification to be the Democratic Presidential nominee.

If he hadn't run in 2016, he'd be a curiosity.  Because he DID run, and ran so poorly, he's been judged as a candidate without a constituency.  He didn't even "divide" the anti-Hillary vote with Bernie.  If O'Malley had, for example, gotten half the vote Sanders had gotten, he'd be viewed as a guy who got SOME traction, and had SOME following, but that's not the case. 

What was his best county in the 2016 primary? He got over 110,000 votes, which isn't that bad. Those votes must have come from somewhere.

'bout a third of these were from the Florida primary. He got nearly 5000 votes from Tampa Bay (Hillsborough/Pinellas counties), and got 20% in Holmes county.
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« Reply #15 on: October 14, 2017, 09:28:23 PM »

O'Malley is stuck with a "LOSER" image.  It's not just that he got no support; it's that he didn't appear to stand for anything out of the ordinary, or present some extraordinary qualification to be the Democratic Presidential nominee.

If he hadn't run in 2016, he'd be a curiosity.  Because he DID run, and ran so poorly, he's been judged as a candidate without a constituency.  He didn't even "divide" the anti-Hillary vote with Bernie.  If O'Malley had, for example, gotten half the vote Sanders had gotten, he'd be viewed as a guy who got SOME traction, and had SOME following, but that's not the case. 

What was his best county in the 2016 primary? He got over 110,000 votes, which isn't that bad. Those votes must have come from somewhere.

'bout a third of these were from the Florida primary. He got nearly 5000 votes from Tampa Bay (Hillsborough/Pinellas counties), and got 20% in Holmes county.

He did manage to get 13% of the vote in Crawford County, Iowa:

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Of course, that's a caucus, so "the vote" is a strange process, and we don't actually know what the "popular vote" was.
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« Reply #16 on: October 14, 2017, 09:57:30 PM »

'bout a third of these were from the Florida primary. He got nearly 5000 votes from Tampa Bay (Hillsborough/Pinellas counties), and got 20% in Holmes county.

What the ***. I just took a look at the primary map and discovered that he performed extremely well in the northern part of that state, but also around Lake Okeechobee. Shocked

https://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/state.php?year=2016&fips=12&f=1&off=0&elect=1

Okay, I get that he is held in high esteem by traditional Democratic segregationist who don't want to switch to the GOP by force of habit Tongue but how the hell did he achieve those outstanding results around the Okeechobee?

And why hasn't Dave installed a button for O'Malley yet?
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