Klobuchar’s coming out party: the CNN health care debate
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« Reply #75 on: September 26, 2017, 02:57:23 AM »

The Lugar Center disagrees with Bernie not being a partisan hack.


As we know, the least bipartisan member of Congress will get total bipartisan support, right?
Where's ur blue avatar buddy?
He is a neo liberal democrat which is common in NJ.
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« Reply #76 on: September 26, 2017, 07:50:54 AM »

The Lugar Center disagrees with Bernie not being a partisan hack.


As we know, the least bipartisan member of Congress will get total bipartisan support, right?

Bernie got more amendments passed during the 1995-2006 Republican controlled House than any other member.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/mar/24/bernie-s/bernie-sanders-was-roll-call-amendment-king-1995-2/
That was nearly 10 years ago. And he was a Congressman, not a Senator.

He's gotten plenty of amendments passed since then. But obviously you don't care about his record.
Good job on passing amendments, but you seem to ignore Sanders' lack of legislative accomplishments.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/bernies-record-220508
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« Reply #77 on: September 26, 2017, 11:53:41 AM »

Seems like Klobuchar may be the Dem Kasich who tries to play the moderate hero and wins only 1 state.
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« Reply #78 on: September 26, 2017, 12:40:20 PM »

Seems like Klobuchar may be the Dem Kasich who tries to play the moderate hero and wins only 1 state.

My guess is that she wins zero states, but one or more victories is not out of the question.  I can imagine a Dick Gephardt 2004-esque scenario where she bets everything on Iowa but only comes in 4th place there, and then drops out.
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« Reply #79 on: September 26, 2017, 08:11:26 PM »

I don't know if she has the umph to be on the top of the ticket but she'd make a great choice for Veep.
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« Reply #80 on: September 26, 2017, 09:28:42 PM »

Depending on who is running in 2020 dem primary, she will probably get the same states as Sanders.
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« Reply #81 on: September 27, 2017, 08:03:56 AM »
« Edited: September 27, 2017, 08:35:16 AM by Possiblymaybe »

Depending on who is running in 2020 dem primary, she will probably get the same states as Sanders.
I doubt it.She's a long way away from being progressive. Doesn't support single payer etc. She's more or less a self declared centrist. Her voting record is fairly conservative compared to the rest of the 2020 field.
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« Reply #82 on: September 27, 2017, 02:40:04 PM »

I like her, but the other senator from Minnesota is better.
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« Reply #83 on: September 27, 2017, 02:47:10 PM »

I like her, but the other senator from Minnesota is better.

http://www.startribune.com/minnesota-poll-results-senatorial-job-approval-ratings/420758934/

Minnesotans disagree.
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« Reply #84 on: September 27, 2017, 10:16:03 PM »

She has no presence or charisma & that is a huge problem. Other than that, she was under-prepared & under-performed considering this was a huge chance for her to separate herself from the Booker-Harris-Gillibrand pack & shine. She seemed like an irrelevant lackey, to fill the numbers. Al Franken has a certain presence & charm & humour. And ofcourse Klobuchar is going to tank among progressives if it seems she has no "no fire" or "passion". In politics, often Perception = Reality.

Even Crazy Uncle Joe has some presence, Gillibrand has tons of it & even Booker/Harris has more presence than her.
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« Reply #85 on: September 27, 2017, 10:40:24 PM »

Who else thinks that Bill Cassidy is secretly Henry Rollins?  I've never seen them in the same room together.



Bill Cassidy doesn't seem like an airbender to me.
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« Reply #86 on: September 27, 2017, 11:01:41 PM »

Franken would be the first to say that Klobuchar is more charming, funny and charismatic than he is.
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« Reply #87 on: September 28, 2017, 11:46:40 AM »
« Edited: September 28, 2017, 11:53:39 AM by Mr. Morden »

Depending on who is running in 2020 dem primary, she will probably get the same states as Sanders.
I doubt it.She's a long way away from being progressive. Doesn't support single payer etc. She's more or less a self declared centrist. Her voting record is fairly conservative compared to the rest of the 2020 field.

I'd say it's not just a matter of ideology, but also partisanship.  Klobuchar spends a lot of time working on bipartisan legislation on topics that are not high profile targets of partisan division.  E.g.:

https://www.klobuchar.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/2017/9/klobuchar-tillis-bipartisan-legislation-to-help-veterans-exposed-to-toxic-burn-pits-passes-senate
https://www.klobuchar.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/2017/6/klobuchar-bipartisan-legislation-to-fight-online-exploitation-of-children-passes-senate-judiciary-committee
https://www.klobuchar.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/2017/8/klobuchar-fischer-bipartisan-legislation-to-make-contacting-emergency-personnel-simpler-and-easier-passes-senate
https://www.klobuchar.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/2017/8/klobuchar-collins-bipartisan-legislation-to-crack-down-on-fraud-targeted-at-seniors-passes-senate

She's also (unlike the other 2020 Dems) not playing to partisan Dems by voting no on most of Trump's appointments.  This is a very different approach from that of Gillibrand, who is playing the role of uber-partisan culture warrior.  Gillibrand's approach seems more likely to play well among Democratic primary voters, who largely hate Trump and the GOP with a burning passion.

OTOH, Gillibrand's approach also links her more to "the establishment", as it identifies her more closely to the Democratic Party as an institution, as someone who is working towards partisan ends.  Sanders in 2016 was ideologically left but also less partisan, and so attracted some vote that was purely "anti-establishment".

That said, maybe Klobuchar is just trying to be bipartisan in order to get the largest reelection margin possible next year, and will then shift into partisan mode once the midterms are over.  That's what people accused HRC of doing in 2006.
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