Will Trump's Pardon of Arpaio Come Back to Haunt Him in AZ in 2020?
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Kingpoleon
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« Reply #25 on: August 28, 2017, 05:59:13 PM »

This is a great and local way to reach out to voters. I don't particularly like politicizing pardons, though.
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« Reply #26 on: August 29, 2017, 12:15:39 PM »

Arpaio's pardon will be over three years old in November of 2020. I think other national issues will carry much more weight in Arizona and elsewhere by the time the next presidential election rolls around.

bolded is the problem with the argument. The thread is referring to AZ not a national level. This post describes exactly why Arpaio won't be a national issue, because there are those who are not from here and do not understand the pain and suffering. With that said yes, All politics Is local, Dems should use this local issue to carry AZ in 2018 and 2020.
This will not cause the Dems to win PA, but it could cause them to win AZ.
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« Reply #27 on: August 30, 2017, 10:29:06 PM »

No. I truly believe the D base of younger voters is too skittish to remember much about what happened 3 years ago.
The average American voter is easier to distract than me when I'm supposed to be doing something productive.
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« Reply #28 on: August 31, 2017, 01:53:03 PM »

A: that's presidential, not statewide.
B: Perot voters make trends in 96 unreliable. We don't know if the Perot voters that were typically R didn't just come home
C: NOVA lived through this. You didn't. You also live in a rich LA exurb that is rather isolated from a lot of this stuff.

A. Doesn't matter: the data showed the state was trending Democrat for an entire decade befor Prop 187.
B. Perhaps, though again, the state had been trending Democrat for an entire decade before.
C. Oh please. My father and his siblings all grew up in a working class household in Long Beach. My grandfather grew up in the same environment during the Great Depression in Los Angeles. Even they'll tell you to your face the state was already becoming more and more Democratic before Latinos got involved in large numbers politically.

C. You haven't. Did they actually say that?

The fact is, Cali would not have trended as fast as it has without the flood of things like prop 182. It shifted a major demographic dramatically to the left and made them more active.
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« Reply #29 on: September 01, 2017, 04:50:08 PM »

Not nationally. In Arizona. And not even as a main attack. 30 second ads discussing it is not far fetched.

Perhaps. But I also thought in 2015 that if Trump became the nominee Clinton would release ads in the GE of children being deported with Trump's statements in the background - an updated "Daisy" ad so to speak.

I'm just not sure if three years from now this issue will be at the forefront even in Arizona since

there's going to be bigger fish to fry but I guess we'll see.

Arpaio is going to be  talked about for decades let alone in 3 years in Arizona. Those of us who actually from AZ know this, because of the scope of pain he has caused.
Candidates always use local issues to win states over. Arpaio is a local issue Dems should use to win over AZ, not nationally because there are people like this who aren't from here and don't understand.

Arpaio and if Trump ends DACA, AZ's transition might be complete.
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