"journalist" lauren southern arrested for shooting flares at a refugee boat

[kyc0705]

It's the fault of European governments who have their coast guard "rescue" refugees on the open water only a short distance away from the African coast, and bring them all the way to Europe, that causes more and more of them to make the dangerous journey to cross the Mediterranean. If you took a hard stance and stopped letting them in so easily, they wouldn't make the trip in the first place, and it would prevent more deaths.

But all you really care about is importing future voters who will reliably vote for the left. You don't really care about human life.

How to take a half-decent argument and turn it into partisan hackery 101.

Then perhaps you can share with us the proposed solution by left leaning political parties to these waves of migrants headed for western countries that doesn't involve bringing them into our countries, which only encourages more of them to make the dangerous journey. For all your professing that it's not your stated position, you always end up on the side of open borders in any policy disagreement. It's because you want to import future voters, that's all you really care about.

You literally can't even stop yourself. Not even for one minute.

It's the truth. There is no other reason to bring them into western countries. We could be paying other countries closer to their homes to host them, we could be putting economic sanctions on other countries that allow them to pass through their borders in order to stop the flow. There are several different ways to deal with the issue, but the left rejects all of them in favor of bringing them into our countries.

Muslims would probably be reliably conservative voters if people like you didn't want to slaughter them all in the name of "freedom". Considering born again/far right Christianity and extremist Islam don't have many differences.

I'm not conservative. I'm non-religious, and pro-equal rights for women and lgbt. I'm also left leaning on many economic issues. I just don't have a hatred of my own people and culture and seek to replace them via immigration in order to win elections, which seems to be a prerequisite for left leaning political parties in the west these days.

If you really cared about the working class in your own country then you wouldn't want to increase the supply of labor and drive down wages any further, especially at a time when automation is replacing more and more non-skilled labor jobs.

That's funny. You're very funny. But I think we're done here.

[Jeffster]

It's the fault of European governments who have their coast guard "rescue" refugees on the open water only a short distance away from the African coast, and bring them all the way to Europe, that causes more and more of them to make the dangerous journey to cross the Mediterranean. If you took a hard stance and stopped letting them in so easily, they wouldn't make the trip in the first place, and it would prevent more deaths.

But all you really care about is importing future voters who will reliably vote for the left. You don't really care about human life.

How to take a half-decent argument and turn it into partisan hackery 101.

Then perhaps you can share with us the proposed solution by left leaning political parties to these waves of migrants headed for western countries that doesn't involve bringing them into our countries, which only encourages more of them to make the dangerous journey. For all your professing that it's not your stated position, you always end up on the side of open borders in any policy disagreement. It's because you want to import future voters, that's all you really care about.

You literally can't even stop yourself. Not even for one minute.

It's the truth. There is no other reason to bring them into western countries. We could be paying other countries closer to their homes to host them, we could be putting economic sanctions on other countries that allow them to pass through their borders in order to stop the flow. There are several different ways to deal with the issue, but the left rejects all of them in favor of bringing them into our countries.

Muslims would probably be reliably conservative voters if people like you didn't want to slaughter them all in the name of "freedom". Considering born again/far right Christianity and extremist Islam don't have many differences.

I'm not conservative. I'm non-religious, and pro-equal rights for women and lgbt. I'm also left leaning on many economic issues. I just don't have a hatred of my own people and culture and seek to replace them via immigration in order to win elections, which seems to be a prerequisite for left leaning political parties in the west these days.

If you really cared about the working class in your own country then you wouldn't want to increase the supply of labor and drive down wages any further, especially at a time when automation is replacing more and more non-skilled labor jobs.

Alt right Pepe kid spotted

You have no argument to defend your position. Modern leftist thought is shallow and short-sighted. In a world where technology is doing away with unskilled labor at an alarming pace, there is no need to take in so many immigrants. Doing so only raises living costs for the people here and drives down their wages.

[MasterJedi]

It's the fault of European governments who have their coast guard "rescue" refugees on the open water only a short distance away from the African coast, and bring them all the way to Europe, that causes more and more of them to make the dangerous journey to cross the Mediterranean. If you took a hard stance and stopped letting them in so easily, they wouldn't make the trip in the first place, and it would prevent more deaths.

But all you really care about is importing future voters who will reliably vote for the left. You don't really care about human life.

How to take a half-decent argument and turn it into partisan hackery 101.

Then perhaps you can share with us the proposed solution by left leaning political parties to these waves of migrants headed for western countries that doesn't involve bringing them into our countries, which only encourages more of them to make the dangerous journey. For all your professing that it's not your stated position, you always end up on the side of open borders in any policy disagreement. It's because you want to import future voters, that's all you really care about.

You literally can't even stop yourself. Not even for one minute.

It's the truth. There is no other reason to bring them into western countries. We could be paying other countries closer to their homes to host them, we could be putting economic sanctions on other countries that allow them to pass through their borders in order to stop the flow. There are several different ways to deal with the issue, but the left rejects all of them in favor of bringing them into our countries.

Muslims would probably be reliably conservative voters if people like you didn't want to slaughter them all in the name of "freedom". Considering born again/far right Christianity and extremist Islam don't have many differences.

I'm not conservative. I'm non-religious, and pro-equal rights for women and lgbt. I'm also left leaning on many economic issues. I just don't have a hatred of my own people and culture and seek to replace them via immigration in order to win elections, which seems to be a prerequisite for left leaning political parties in the west these days.

If you really cared about the working class in your own country then you wouldn't want to increase the supply of labor and drive down wages any further, especially at a time when automation is replacing more and more non-skilled labor jobs.

Alt right Pepe kid spotted

You have no argument to defend your position. Modern leftist thought is shallow and short-sighted. In a world where technology is doing away with unskilled labor at an alarming pace, there is no need to take in so many immigrants. Doing so only raises living costs for the people here and drives down their wages.

The country will be destroyed, just like it was with the dirty catholic Irish and Eyetalians who are reporting everything to their true emperor, the pope. If we let them in they will destroy the country! Then it was the eastern Europeans and the Chinese/Japanese/Asians, etc. Never happens.

[heatcharger]

In short, your post was bad you are bad and you should feel bad

In short your post was bad and you should feel bad.

Get over your little male persecution complex already.

That certainly sounds like a female persecution complex to me.

Why do I get a #MensRights vibe from you?

Why do I get a #Misandrist vibe from you?

lol

[Jeffster]

It's the fault of European governments who have their coast guard "rescue" refugees on the open water only a short distance away from the African coast, and bring them all the way to Europe, that causes more and more of them to make the dangerous journey to cross the Mediterranean. If you took a hard stance and stopped letting them in so easily, they wouldn't make the trip in the first place, and it would prevent more deaths.

But all you really care about is importing future voters who will reliably vote for the left. You don't really care about human life.

How to take a half-decent argument and turn it into partisan hackery 101.

Then perhaps you can share with us the proposed solution by left leaning political parties to these waves of migrants headed for western countries that doesn't involve bringing them into our countries, which only encourages more of them to make the dangerous journey. For all your professing that it's not your stated position, you always end up on the side of open borders in any policy disagreement. It's because you want to import future voters, that's all you really care about.

You literally can't even stop yourself. Not even for one minute.

It's the truth. There is no other reason to bring them into western countries. We could be paying other countries closer to their homes to host them, we could be putting economic sanctions on other countries that allow them to pass through their borders in order to stop the flow. There are several different ways to deal with the issue, but the left rejects all of them in favor of bringing them into our countries.

Muslims would probably be reliably conservative voters if people like you didn't want to slaughter them all in the name of "freedom". Considering born again/far right Christianity and extremist Islam don't have many differences.

I'm not conservative. I'm non-religious, and pro-equal rights for women and lgbt. I'm also left leaning on many economic issues. I just don't have a hatred of my own people and culture and seek to replace them via immigration in order to win elections, which seems to be a prerequisite for left leaning political parties in the west these days.

If you really cared about the working class in your own country then you wouldn't want to increase the supply of labor and drive down wages any further, especially at a time when automation is replacing more and more non-skilled labor jobs.

Alt right Pepe kid spotted

You have no argument to defend your position. Modern leftist thought is shallow and short-sighted. In a world where technology is doing away with unskilled labor at an alarming pace, there is no need to take in so many immigrants. Doing so only raises living costs for the people here and drives down their wages.

The country will be destroyed, just like it was with the dirty catholic Irish and Eyetalians who are reporting everything to their true emperor, the pope. If we let them in they will destroy the country! Then it was the eastern Europeans and the Chinese/Japanese/Asians, etc. Never happens.

Comparing today to those periods shows your ignorance. First, native birth rates in most western countries is below replacement, that wasn't the case back then. So a constant stream of immigration from a more backwards culture combined with their higher than the natives birth rate, will mean several western European countries will become majority muslim by the end of the century, and have all the regressive social policies that goes along with that.

Second, there is no sparsely populated western lands looking for settlers or newly opened factories desperate for workers like there was back then. It is a fact that automation is doing away with many forms of unskilled labor, so you are bringing in people that are going to be a burden to support, when we have to start taking care of our own people.

[Devout Centrist]

Just ignore the kiddo, he'll go whine about it in the YouTube comment section

[MasterJedi]

It's the fault of European governments who have their coast guard "rescue" refugees on the open water only a short distance away from the African coast, and bring them all the way to Europe, that causes more and more of them to make the dangerous journey to cross the Mediterranean. If you took a hard stance and stopped letting them in so easily, they wouldn't make the trip in the first place, and it would prevent more deaths.

But all you really care about is importing future voters who will reliably vote for the left. You don't really care about human life.

How to take a half-decent argument and turn it into partisan hackery 101.

Then perhaps you can share with us the proposed solution by left leaning political parties to these waves of migrants headed for western countries that doesn't involve bringing them into our countries, which only encourages more of them to make the dangerous journey. For all your professing that it's not your stated position, you always end up on the side of open borders in any policy disagreement. It's because you want to import future voters, that's all you really care about.

You literally can't even stop yourself. Not even for one minute.

It's the truth. There is no other reason to bring them into western countries. We could be paying other countries closer to their homes to host them, we could be putting economic sanctions on other countries that allow them to pass through their borders in order to stop the flow. There are several different ways to deal with the issue, but the left rejects all of them in favor of bringing them into our countries.

Muslims would probably be reliably conservative voters if people like you didn't want to slaughter them all in the name of "freedom". Considering born again/far right Christianity and extremist Islam don't have many differences.

I'm not conservative. I'm non-religious, and pro-equal rights for women and lgbt. I'm also left leaning on many economic issues. I just don't have a hatred of my own people and culture and seek to replace them via immigration in order to win elections, which seems to be a prerequisite for left leaning political parties in the west these days.

If you really cared about the working class in your own country then you wouldn't want to increase the supply of labor and drive down wages any further, especially at a time when automation is replacing more and more non-skilled labor jobs.

Alt right Pepe kid spotted

You have no argument to defend your position. Modern leftist thought is shallow and short-sighted. In a world where technology is doing away with unskilled labor at an alarming pace, there is no need to take in so many immigrants. Doing so only raises living costs for the people here and drives down their wages.

The country will be destroyed, just like it was with the dirty catholic Irish and Eyetalians who are reporting everything to their true emperor, the pope. If we let them in they will destroy the country! Then it was the eastern Europeans and the Chinese/Japanese/Asians, etc. Never happens.

Comparing today to those periods shows your ignorance. First, native birth rates in most western countries is below replacement, that wasn't the case back then. So a constant stream of immigration from a more backwards culture combined with their higher than the natives birth rate, will mean several western European countries will become majority muslim by the end of the century, and have all the regressive social policies that goes along with that.

Second, there is no sparsely populated western lands looking for settlers or newly opened factories desperate for workers like there was back then. It is a fact that automation is doing away with many forms of unskilled labor, so you are bringing in people that are going to be a burden to support, when we have to start taking care of our own people.

We don't need to have people move to rural or suburban areas, we need to build up our cities into work/play places that are walkable and use public transportation over cars for the most part. Don't need to destroy the rural areas anymore and overextend natural resources.

[Jeffster]

It's the fault of European governments who have their coast guard "rescue" refugees on the open water only a short distance away from the African coast, and bring them all the way to Europe, that causes more and more of them to make the dangerous journey to cross the Mediterranean. If you took a hard stance and stopped letting them in so easily, they wouldn't make the trip in the first place, and it would prevent more deaths.

But all you really care about is importing future voters who will reliably vote for the left. You don't really care about human life.

How to take a half-decent argument and turn it into partisan hackery 101.

Then perhaps you can share with us the proposed solution by left leaning political parties to these waves of migrants headed for western countries that doesn't involve bringing them into our countries, which only encourages more of them to make the dangerous journey. For all your professing that it's not your stated position, you always end up on the side of open borders in any policy disagreement. It's because you want to import future voters, that's all you really care about.

You literally can't even stop yourself. Not even for one minute.

It's the truth. There is no other reason to bring them into western countries. We could be paying other countries closer to their homes to host them, we could be putting economic sanctions on other countries that allow them to pass through their borders in order to stop the flow. There are several different ways to deal with the issue, but the left rejects all of them in favor of bringing them into our countries.

Muslims would probably be reliably conservative voters if people like you didn't want to slaughter them all in the name of "freedom". Considering born again/far right Christianity and extremist Islam don't have many differences.

I'm not conservative. I'm non-religious, and pro-equal rights for women and lgbt. I'm also left leaning on many economic issues. I just don't have a hatred of my own people and culture and seek to replace them via immigration in order to win elections, which seems to be a prerequisite for left leaning political parties in the west these days.

If you really cared about the working class in your own country then you wouldn't want to increase the supply of labor and drive down wages any further, especially at a time when automation is replacing more and more non-skilled labor jobs.

Alt right Pepe kid spotted

You have no argument to defend your position. Modern leftist thought is shallow and short-sighted. In a world where technology is doing away with unskilled labor at an alarming pace, there is no need to take in so many immigrants. Doing so only raises living costs for the people here and drives down their wages.

The country will be destroyed, just like it was with the dirty catholic Irish and Eyetalians who are reporting everything to their true emperor, the pope. If we let them in they will destroy the country! Then it was the eastern Europeans and the Chinese/Japanese/Asians, etc. Never happens.

Comparing today to those periods shows your ignorance. First, native birth rates in most western countries is below replacement, that wasn't the case back then. So a constant stream of immigration from a more backwards culture combined with their higher than the natives birth rate, will mean several western European countries will become majority muslim by the end of the century, and have all the regressive social policies that goes along with that.

Second, there is no sparsely populated western lands looking for settlers or newly opened factories desperate for workers like there was back then. It is a fact that automation is doing away with many forms of unskilled labor, so you are bringing in people that are going to be a burden to support, when we have to start taking care of our own people.

We don't need to have people move to rural or suburban areas, we need to build up our cities into work/play places that are walkable and use public transportation over cars for the most part. Don't need to destroy the rural areas anymore and overextend natural resources.

That still solves nothing about the issue of jobs, or how to pay for a possible UBI in the future if too many people are put out of work due to automation. Nor does it address the issue of demographic replacement due to the differences in birth rates and the steady stream of immigrants from a backwards culture. If you were to say immigration will be halted at some point a few years from now, then we can talk about assimilating those that are here and figuring out how to pay for them as more jobs disappear, that way we can have a peaceful future society together. Instead all the modern left offers is to take them now, take them tomorrow, and take them forever into the future, no matter the cost, and don't you dare tell them to give up the backwards parts of their culture because that would be racist.

Do you realistically think population growth can go on forever, or do you think there is a limit on how many people can live comfortably on this planet without destroying it? If there is a limit, and constant population growth is unsustainable, then how come modern leftist thought never addresses this issue and wants us to grow our population through immigration forever?

[Old Man Willow]

#lockherup 

[parochial boy]

Yes, I mean, importing immigrants has been a spectacularly successful strategy for left wing parties so far...

[GoTfan]

Wasn't Germnay's current refugee policy implemented by a centre-right party?

[Kingpoleon]

It's the fault of European governments who have their coast guard "rescue" refugees on the open water only a short distance away from the African coast, and bring them all the way to Europe, that causes more and more of them to make the dangerous journey to cross the Mediterranean. If you took a hard stance and stopped letting them in so easily, they wouldn't make the trip in the first place, and it would prevent more deaths.

But all you really care about is importing future voters who will reliably vote for the left. You don't really care about human life.

How to take a half-decent argument and turn it into partisan hackery 101.

Then perhaps you can share with us the proposed solution by left leaning political parties to these waves of migrants headed for western countries that doesn't involve bringing them into our countries, which only encourages more of them to make the dangerous journey. For all your professing that it's not your stated position, you always end up on the side of open borders in any policy disagreement. It's because you want to import future voters, that's all you really care about.

You literally can't even stop yourself. Not even for one minute.

It's the truth. There is no other reason to bring them into western countries. We could be paying other countries closer to their homes to host them, we could be putting economic sanctions on other countries that allow them to pass through their borders in order to stop the flow. There are several different ways to deal with the issue, but the left rejects all of them in favor of bringing them into our countries.

So me and kyc just want people to vote Democratic despite being Independents?

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Thread derailed beyond redemption, locked with no punitive action.