What is the next legislative goal for the gay community?

[Old Man Willow]

Seems the T in LGBT is getting most of the attention these days. What is the current goal of the gay community, as in what would be pushed for the next time Democrats take power?

[Kingpoleon]

Banning straight marriage.

[SATW]

Getting ENDA passed through on the federal level is a must. This is regardless of which party is in power. The LGBT Community needs to focus the fight on ensuring that our jobs are safe.

[Blair]

Yeah it's still remarkable that there isn't universal legal protections for LGBT people in regards to getting sacked, getting housing etc but there's a right to marriage considering marriage is often the last frontier.

AIDs/HIV Funding+protection of healthcare is a vital issue, along with a general promotion of sex ed and other schemes in schools.

[DavidB.]

Seems the T in LGBT is getting most of the attention these days. What is the current goal of the gay community, as in what would be pushed for the next time Democrats take power?

You sound p resentful...

[Old Man Willow]

Seems the T in LGBT is getting most of the attention these days. What is the current goal of the gay community, as in what would be pushed for the next time Democrats take power?

You sound p resentful...

Resentful of...?

[DavidB.]

Seems the T in LGBT is getting most of the attention these days. What is the current goal of the gay community, as in what would be pushed for the next time Democrats take power?

You sound p resentful...

Resentful of...?

LGBT organizations furthering political goals.

[SUSAN CRUSHBONE]

Seems the T in LGBT is getting most of the attention these days. What is the current goal of the gay community, as in what would be pushed for the next time Democrats take power?

You sound p resentful...

i'm glad somebody else thinks so and i'm not just beïng a Shrill Tr*nny™

[Old Man Willow]

Seems the T in LGBT is getting most of the attention these days. What is the current goal of the gay community, as in what would be pushed for the next time Democrats take power?

You sound p resentful...

Resentful of...?

LGBT organizations furthering political goals.

Not sure why it sounds that way to you. All the focus seems to be on transgenderism and I'm curious about what the next step for gays will be.

[DavidB.]

Not sure why it sounds that way to you. All the focus seems to be on transgenderism and I'm curious about what the next step for gays will be.

I don't really believe that you don't see this, but I'll break it down for you.

The question "What is the next legislative goal for the gay community?" implies that "the gay community" is organized in order to pursue a whole wish list of "legislative goals". Someone who supports more LGBT rights usually just wouldn't word it this way: there is no monolithic "gay community" and there is no widely agreed upon list of "legislative goals", there's individuals and organizations interested in all sorts of different issues.

Your OP "What is the current goal of the gay community, as in what would be pushed for the next time Democrats take power?" again implies the LGBT community is monolithic. "Pushed for" can be seen as having a negative connotation. "The next time the Democrats take power" sounds as if you think LGBT organizations seek or hold undue influence over the legislative agenda of the Democratic Party.

Maybe it's just me and none of this is true, but it feels as if someone who views this as a positive development wouldn't formulate any of these things the way you did. The combination does make it sound resentful to me.

[DavidB.]

As for an actual answer to your question: I don't know about LGBT organizations in America, but I know that the main LGBT organization in the Netherlands is trying to make PrEP more accessible to gay men, which, for some reason, is still not widely supported by political parties. It is very expensive and not yet part of people's healthcare plans.

[Old Man Willow]

Not sure why it sounds that way to you. All the focus seems to be on transgenderism and I'm curious about what the next step for gays will be.

I don't really believe that you don't see this, but I'll break it down for you.

The question "What is the next legislative goal for the gay community?" implies that "the gay community" is organized in order to pursue a whole wish list of "legislative goals". Someone who supports more LGBT rights usually just wouldn't word it this way: there is no monolithic "gay community" and there is no widely agreed upon list of "legislative goals", there's individuals and organizations interested in all sorts of different issues.

Your OP "What is the current goal of the gay community, as in what would be pushed for the next time Democrats take power?" again implies the LGBT community is monolithic. "Pushed for" can be seen as having a negative connotation. "The next time the Democrats take power" sounds as if you think LGBT organizations seek or hold undue influence over the legislative agenda of the Democratic Party.

Maybe it's just me and none of this is true, but it feels as if someone who views this as a positive development wouldn't formulate any of these things the way you did. The combination does make it sound resentful to me.

I understand that it's not a monolithic group, but I'm not sure how it could have been phrased differently. I'm not interested in asking about a specific organization, only in what the major issue, so to speak, is now that marriage equality has been attained. I think the "gay community" is appropriate here, as surely you would agree that it was a major issue and goal of the vast majority of gays over the past decade.

Of course I specified Democrats, who seriously expects anything major to be passed through this administration/congress? And "pushed for" is one the most generic phrases out there, not sure what that could have been replaced with.

[Mr. Reactionary]

They should push for the repeal of the special blood donation restrictions. It's a waste of perfectly good blood.

[SATW]

They should push for the repeal of the special blood donation restrictions. It's a waste of perfectly good blood.

Yes, this is another worthy goal to work towards.

[Blue3]

the Equality Act would encompass ENDA/employment, housing, medicine, adoption, education, federal funding, credit, jury duty, public accommodations, etc.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equality_Act_(United_States)

[Kingpoleon]

Getting ENDA passed through on the federal level is a must. This is regardless of which party is in power. The LGBT Community needs to focus the fight on ensuring that our jobs are safe.

This is an unnecessary federal overreach into individual economic freedom. I really hope this is never passed, but that is highly, highly unlikely.

[Green Line]

Getting ENDA passed through on the federal level is a must. This is regardless of which party is in power. The LGBT Community needs to focus the fight on ensuring that our jobs are safe.

This is an unnecessary federal overreach into individual economic freedom. I really hope this is never passed, but that is highly, highly unlikely.

Being denied a job because of your sexuality is the opposite of individual economic freedom.

[Kingpoleon]

Getting ENDA passed through on the federal level is a must. This is regardless of which party is in power. The LGBT Community needs to focus the fight on ensuring that our jobs are safe.

This is an unnecessary federal overreach into individual economic freedom. I really hope this is never passed, but that is highly, highly unlikely.

Being denied a job because of your sexuality is the opposite of individual economic freedom.

Forcing anti-discriminatory federal laws is definitively part of collectivist economic "equality".

[SATW]

Getting ENDA passed through on the federal level is a must. This is regardless of which party is in power. The LGBT Community needs to focus the fight on ensuring that our jobs are safe.

This is an unnecessary federal overreach into individual economic freedom. I really hope this is never passed, but that is highly, highly unlikely.

Being denied a job because of your sexuality is the opposite of individual economic freedom.

Forcing anti-discriminatory federal laws is definitively part of collectivist economic "equality".

Would you say this about the civil rights act of 1964?

We aren't asking anyone to hire us because of our sexuality. We are simply say we want to be protected from being fired for our sexuality. That is hardly an infringement on individual economic freedom.

[SUSAN CRUSHBONE]

Getting ENDA passed through on the federal level is a must. This is regardless of which party is in power. The LGBT Community needs to focus the fight on ensuring that our jobs are safe.

This is an unnecessary federal overreach into individual economic freedom. I really hope this is never passed, but that is highly, highly unlikely.

Being denied a job because of your sexuality is the opposite of individual economic freedom.

Forcing anti-discriminatory federal laws is definitively part of collectivist economic "equality".

Would you say this about the civil rights act of 1964?

We aren't asking anyone to hire us because of our sexuality. We are simply say we want to be protected from being fired for our sexuality. That is hardly an infringement on individual economic freedom.

Great! The CRA of 1964 should have had a time limit put in it for forty or fifty years, though.

Why?

I would have supported anti-discrimination measures at the time, but now the means thereof are not needed and immoral in my opinion. I have been criticized for this before, but I don't support anti-discrimination measures at all today.

you seriously claiming that racism is over?

No, just that the social need for the CRA of 1964 is no longer a moral imperative but rather an immoral bad thing as it is outweighed by the economic need for free markets.

[Blue3]

Getting ENDA passed through on the federal level is a must. This is regardless of which party is in power. The LGBT Community needs to focus the fight on ensuring that our jobs are safe.

This is an unnecessary federal overreach into individual economic freedom. I really hope this is never passed, but that is highly, highly unlikely.

Being denied a job because of your sexuality is the opposite of individual economic freedom.

Forcing anti-discriminatory federal laws is definitively part of collectivist economic "equality".

Would you say this about the civil rights act of 1964?

We aren't asking anyone to hire us because of our sexuality. We are simply say we want to be protected from being fired for our sexuality. That is hardly an infringement on individual economic freedom.

Great! The CRA of 1964 should have had a time limit put in it for forty or fifty years, though.

Why?

I would have supported anti-discrimination measures at the time, but now the means thereof are not needed and immoral in my opinion. I have been criticized for this before, but I don't support anti-discrimination measures at all today.

you seriously claiming that racism is over?

No, just that the social need for the CRA of 1964 is no longer a moral imperative but rather an immoral bad thing as it is outweighed by the economic need for free markets.

Remember the time the Republican Senate mocked Rand Paul for saying something similar about the Civil Rights Act, as talking like a college sophomore stupidly philosophizing after having too many beers?

Good times.

[Kingpoleon]

Getting ENDA passed through on the federal level is a must. This is regardless of which party is in power. The LGBT Community needs to focus the fight on ensuring that our jobs are safe.

This is an unnecessary federal overreach into individual economic freedom. I really hope this is never passed, but that is highly, highly unlikely.

Being denied a job because of your sexuality is the opposite of individual economic freedom.

Forcing anti-discriminatory federal laws is definitively part of collectivist economic "equality".

Would you say this about the civil rights act of 1964?

We aren't asking anyone to hire us because of our sexuality. We are simply say we want to be protected from being fired for our sexuality. That is hardly an infringement on individual economic freedom.

Yes I would, and for that I have been called a homophobe and racist towards minorities before. Before anyone else tries similar tactics, on neither count am I self-hating, and that form of arguing - name calling and mudslinging, hoping one of your wild shots will hit the target and stick - is hateful, ineffective, and solves nothing.

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Get rid of bans and discrimination on LGBT adopting kids.

[SATW]

Getting ENDA passed through on the federal level is a must. This is regardless of which party is in power. The LGBT Community needs to focus the fight on ensuring that our jobs are safe.

This is an unnecessary federal overreach into individual economic freedom. I really hope this is never passed, but that is highly, highly unlikely.

Being denied a job because of your sexuality is the opposite of individual economic freedom.

Forcing anti-discriminatory federal laws is definitively part of collectivist economic "equality".

Would you say this about the civil rights act of 1964?

We aren't asking anyone to hire us because of our sexuality. We are simply say we want to be protected from being fired for our sexuality. That is hardly an infringement on individual economic freedom.

Yes I would, and for that I have been called a homophobe and racist towards minorities before. Before anyone else tries similar tactics, on neither count am I self-hating, and that form of arguing - name calling and mudslinging, hoping one of your wild shots will hit the target and stick - is hateful, ineffective, and solves nothing.

I'm not a regressive progressive, so I won't call you names lol. it just seems like we'll have to disagree on this issue