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« on: August 03, 2005, 10:34:57 AM »

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/4741243.stm
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« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2005, 10:39:08 AM »

Nice going ousting the theocrat.
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« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2005, 10:47:04 AM »

Too bad that we already voted Taya off in the World Leaders Survivor. Wink
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« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2005, 10:50:58 AM »

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Let's hope they fulfill that promise.
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« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2005, 11:19:35 AM »

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Let's hope they fulfill that promise.

Judging by history in Africa the odds of that are probably about 10% or so. Probably will be like Pakistan.

Still this guy was just a Islamic-forcing dictator anyway, I'd take the military junta over him.
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« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2005, 11:22:18 AM »

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Let's hope they fulfill that promise.

Judging by history in Africa the odds of that are probably about 10% or so. Probably will be like Pakistan.

Still this guy was just a Islamic-forcing dictator anyway, I'd take the military junta over him.

Yeah, that's why I said 'let's hope' - not a good chance, but you never know.
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« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2005, 02:18:35 PM »

Taya'd taken office in a similar coup 21 years ago.
Coupists now struck during his absence, away to bury King Fahd.
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« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2005, 02:24:37 PM »

Coupists now struck during his absence,

Classic
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« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2005, 02:36:18 PM »

Actually, he really was more the type who used Islamism in place of communism as an excuse to jail or "diappear" enemies. In fact, the new junta is more likely to be Islamist.

The good news is that Nigeria and the AU are pissed. The bad news is that despite a surprisingly coordinated and forceful verbal response to recent events in Togo, these same entities failed to prevent the rise to power of the late dictator's idiot son.
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« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2005, 02:59:28 PM »

'The African Union said it "strongly condemns any seizure of power or any attempt to take power by force".'

Yeah, how dare force be used to overthrow a tyrant. Roll Eyes

Maybe this will be a good thing, maybe not...not certain yet.
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« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2005, 03:03:17 PM »

Perfect timing Smiley
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« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2005, 06:23:53 PM »

He wasn't the worst of tyrants.  He at least went through the forms of democracy and there is some evidence that in local elections he even allowed it.  It's doubtful that this will matter much outside of Mauritania.  In the unlikely event that Mauritania goes off the deep end and tries exporting militant Islamic fundamentalism elsewhere either Morocco or Algeria has the capability to take care of Mauritania without outside assistance, and both would have the motivation.
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« Reply #12 on: August 03, 2005, 09:52:52 PM »


Just like Qaddafi and the regime Pol Pot deposed.
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« Reply #13 on: August 03, 2005, 11:05:09 PM »

He wasn't the worst of tyrants.  He at least went through the forms of democracy and there is some evidence that in local elections he even allowed it.  It's doubtful that this will matter much outside of Mauritania.  In the unlikely event that Mauritania goes off the deep end and tries exporting militant Islamic fundamentalism elsewhere either Morocco or Algeria has the capability to take care of Mauritania without outside assistance, and both would have the motivation.

Hell, Senegal can - and has - kicked Mauritania's ass before. Wink
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« Reply #14 on: August 03, 2005, 11:08:37 PM »

If you think Pol Pot was better then his predecessor, you seriously need to rethink your priorities.
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« Reply #15 on: August 03, 2005, 11:12:19 PM »

If you think Pol Pot was better then his predecessor, you seriously need to rethink your priorities.

I never said he was.
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« Reply #16 on: August 04, 2005, 03:38:25 PM »

'The African Union said it "strongly condemns any seizure of power or any attempt to take power by force".'

Yeah, how dare force be used to overthrow a tyrant. Roll Eyes

Maybe this will be a good thing, maybe not...not certain yet.

The AU seems to be very blatantly condemning every shift of power.  It's almost like they're worried about the same crap happening to their countries or something .... nah.

I just wish the military had combined its efforts with popular support or some civilian institution.  The military is inherently an anti-democratic organization (officers aren't elected), which would make me doubt its effectiveness in being able to implement democracy before even considering the fact that this is Africa we're talking about.

What's done is done, I hope the military opens up the country to investment and whatnot, or the people of Mauritania will suffer.
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« Reply #17 on: August 04, 2005, 06:33:12 PM »

'The African Union said it "strongly condemns any seizure of power or any attempt to take power by force".'

Yeah, how dare force be used to overthrow a tyrant. Roll Eyes

Maybe this will be a good thing, maybe not...not certain yet.

The AU seems to be very blatantly condemning every shift of power.  It's almost like they're worried about the same crap happening to their countries or something .... nah.

I just wish the military had combined its efforts with popular support or some civilian institution.  The military is inherently an anti-democratic organization (officers aren't elected), which would make me doubt its effectiveness in being able to implement democracy before even considering the fact that this is Africa we're talking about.

What's done is done, I hope the military opens up the country to investment and whatnot, or the people of Mauritania will suffer.

Yeah, if they at least open up at least a somewhat free market with free trade things should go fine.
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« Reply #18 on: August 04, 2005, 07:52:49 PM »

I just wish the military had combined its efforts with popular support or some civilian institution.

had that happened, the plan would've probably been uncovered and thwarted. Whatever the case once the announcement was made reports say that there was celebrations in the streets and all passers-by to the capital honked their horns in support. So they have the support of the people now.

BTW, the Bush admin has condemned this coup. Ah, Bush the old dictator lover!
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« Reply #19 on: August 05, 2005, 01:05:02 AM »

'The African Union said it "strongly condemns any seizure of power or any attempt to take power by force".'

Yeah, how dare force be used to overthrow a tyrant. Roll Eyes

Maybe this will be a good thing, maybe not...not certain yet.

The AU seems to be very blatantly condemning every shift of power.  It's almost like they're worried about the same crap happening to their countries or something .... nah.

I just wish the military had combined its efforts with popular support or some civilian institution.  The military is inherently an anti-democratic organization (officers aren't elected), which would make me doubt its effectiveness in being able to implement democracy before even considering the fact that this is Africa we're talking about.

What's done is done, I hope the military opens up the country to investment and whatnot, or the people of Mauritania will suffer.

Yeah, the AU member governments aren't worried at all about being overthrown. Tongue

Too early to tell with the military-civilian bit.
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