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Filuwaúrdjan
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« on: July 23, 2005, 10:24:46 AM »

Same thing as last time...

Whitevanman County

A fast growing urban centre on the edge of suburbia, Whitevanman is dominated by Sun City; a largely working class white flight and overspill town. Sun City is noted having not-exactly-very-liberal-views on race and immigration, although this tends to be exaggerated by people not from Sun City.
Towards the south of the county, the economy is dominated by oil/gas refinaries/terminals.

Hill County

An inner suburban county, Hill has experianced rapid socioeconomic changes in recent years with it's once huge population of rich WASP's moving into the exurbs and being replaced by Indians (mostly Hindu), Jews and lower middle class whites.
Hill is increasingly regarded as a good place to start a family.

Greenwood County

A collection of small textile towns clinging to steep sided valleys, Greenwood, once an industrial powerhouse is struggling to adjust to rapid deindustrialisation. Despite this, a small but significant number of commuters now live in the western third of the county.
Greenwood has a large Evangelical population and a sizeable Catholic one (especially towards the west of the county).
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« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2005, 11:09:30 AM »

Whitevanman County
Bush 69%
Kerry 30%

Hill County
Kerry 54%
Bush 45%

Greenwood County
Bush 55%
Kerry 45%
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« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2005, 04:37:56 PM »

Whitevanman County
Dallas or Houston suburbs?  I was thinking Arizona until the last sentence. Heavily Republican, probably around 65% or 70%.

Hill County
Generally, this would not encompass an entire county, but my guess is De Kalb County, Georgia, so Dem with around 60%.

Greenwood County
No idea about the location, but I'd bet Bush with around 54%.
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« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2005, 02:17:26 AM »

Whitevanman County
Dallas or Houston suburbs?  I was thinking Arizona until the last sentence. Heavily Republican, probably around 65% or 70%.

If it's Houston, my guess would be Brazoria County, maybe Montgomery County. 

Couldn't be Dallas I would think, because the south of Dallas County is basically rural, not suburban.  Counties like Collin County are north of Dallas and the southern parts of those counties are heavily populated (no oil/gas refineries).  Might be Fort Worth.  San Antonio has too strong of a Hispanic population.

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« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2005, 07:29:23 AM »

Same thing as last time...

Whitevanman County

A fast growing urban centre on the edge of suburbia, Whitevanman is dominated by Sun City; a largely working class white flight and overspill town. Sun City is noted having not-exactly-very-liberal-views on race and immigration, although this tends to be exaggerated by people not from Sun City.
Towards the south of the county, the economy is dominated by oil/gas refinaries/terminals.
It's made a bit more difficult by the fact that, in America, a place like this probably wouldn't be all that White (majority White though.)
Republican, as far as the analogy goes.
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Formerly ultra-Republican, now Democrat, probably, although depends somewhat on the state.
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Bush won narrowly in 2004, the first Republican to carry Greenwood since 1972. Congressman is a Democrat.
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« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2005, 02:34:37 PM »

Interesting scenarios Al

Whitevanman County would not be nearly as Republican as many people are stating.  There are plenty of areas in NY and Mass that aren't eactly fond of immigrants nor people of the darker complexion and they still vote heavily for Democrats.  I presume that Sun City would have a heavy union population and often votes as the union does.  I see Whitevanman lean Democrat/labour type and a big swing county in National elections.  A lot of Reagan Dems in this area.

Hill County is interesting because you can often see new arrivals adopt the politics of their neighbors and previous inhabitants.  Nevertheless, I think this would be a 55% dem 45% rep type place and personality of the candidate would play a lot into it.


Greenwood seems the type of place that votes on social issues more than economics.  The Catholics/commuters would likely split 50-50 and I presume the evangelical textile workers would be strong Conservatives at the National level.


These are all great archetypes because I could see a lot of these places going in different direction depending upon geography and history
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« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2005, 10:20:00 PM »

Whitevanman County

Bush: 59%
Kerry: 40%

Hill County

Kerry: 56%
Bush: 43%

Greenwood County

Bush: 54%
Kerry: 46%

But in the 60s and 70s Greenwood would have the Democrat getting at least 60%.
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« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2005, 01:04:39 PM »



Same thing as last time...

Whitevanman County

A fast growing urban centre on the edge of suburbia, Whitevanman is dominated by Sun City; a largely working class white flight and overspill town. Sun City is noted having not-exactly-very-liberal-views on race and immigration, although this tends to be exaggerated by people not from Sun City.
Towards the south of the county, the economy is dominated by oil/gas refinaries/terminals.

Hill County

An inner suburban county, Hill has experianced rapid socioeconomic changes in recent years with it's once huge population of rich WASP's moving into the exurbs and being replaced by Indians (mostly Hindu), Jews and lower middle class whites.
Hill is increasingly regarded as a good place to start a family.

Greenwood County

A collection of small textile towns clinging to steep sided valleys, Greenwood, once an industrial powerhouse is struggling to adjust to rapid deindustrialisation. Despite this, a small but significant number of commuters now live in the western third of the county.
Greenwood has a large Evangelical population and a sizeable Catholic one (especially towards the west of the county).

Whitevanman:

Bush: 68%
Kerry: 30%

Sounds like exurbian Houston

Hill:

Kerry: 57%
Bush: 42%

Sounds like Abington Twp., parts of Montgomery County, PA.  Could also be parts of Southern New Jersey.

Greenwood:

Hard to tell.  I can't equate it with an American area.  My best guess would be Piedmont North/South Carolina, but even then I question because there aren't many Catholics in those areas.
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« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2005, 04:30:34 PM »

Whitevanman County
Dallas or Houston suburbs?  I was thinking Arizona until the last sentence. Heavily Republican, probably around 65% or 70%.

If it's Houston, my guess would be Brazoria County, maybe Montgomery County. 

Couldn't be Dallas I would think, because the south of Dallas County is basically rural, not suburban.  Counties like Collin County are north of Dallas and the southern parts of those counties are heavily populated (no oil/gas refineries).  Might be Fort Worth.  San Antonio has too strong of a Hispanic population.

Haha you know your Texas Counties, Its not Dallas. It could be Houston supposing thats a fake county name. Houston votes Democrat im guessing 70% democrat 30% Republican
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« Reply #9 on: August 01, 2005, 10:53:02 PM »

Whitevanman County
Dallas or Houston suburbs?  I was thinking Arizona until the last sentence. Heavily Republican, probably around 65% or 70%.

If it's Houston, my guess would be Brazoria County, maybe Montgomery County. 

Couldn't be Dallas I would think, because the south of Dallas County is basically rural, not suburban.  Counties like Collin County are north of Dallas and the southern parts of those counties are heavily populated (no oil/gas refineries).  Might be Fort Worth.  San Antonio has too strong of a Hispanic population.

Haha you know your Texas Counties, Its not Dallas. It could be Houston supposing thats a fake county name. Houston votes Democrat im guessing 70% democrat 30% Republican

Well, I lived in Texas for 23 years.  I have a slightly decent idea what's going on there sometimes.  Smiley

Houston votes Democrat more of around the range 65%-35%.  However, Harris County votes about 55%-45% Republican because the surrounding suburbs and towns in Harris vote about 70%-30% Republican.

If it's Harris County, I have to really question Al, because it's really the Eastern edge of Harris County that's dominated by oil terminals, etc, not the Southern edge.  Smiley

Of course, it could also be Louisiana, actually.  Those are the two most likely targets.
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« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2005, 01:10:45 AM »

Same thing as last time...

Whitevanman County

A fast growing urban centre on the edge of suburbia, Whitevanman is dominated by Sun City; a largely working class white flight and overspill town. Sun City is noted having not-exactly-very-liberal-views on race and immigration, although this tends to be exaggerated by people not from Sun City.
Towards the south of the county, the economy is dominated by oil/gas refinaries/terminals.

Probably votes Republican on the national level by decent margins but has considerably more Democrats on the local level, although there will be some Republicans here and there.

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Highly competitive, ancestrally Republican but increasingly less so in recent years. Probably majority Democratic on most issues by now.

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Ancestrally Democratic but now much less so, especially amongst the commuters; again, more local Democrats than the national numbers would indicate.
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« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2005, 06:59:29 AM »

Whitevanman-Racist democrats for local officies, congress etc. GOP in Presidential.
Hill-Democrat at National level, swing at local level.
Greenwood-Democrat at a local level, but GOP in national elections. Statewide? Depends on the state, but probably D.
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