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« on: March 04, 2017, 08:07:32 PM »

The details are still blurry, but here are the key elements of their plan:

-covers fewer people than under Obamacare

-provides less help to the low-income to purchase insurance

-seeks to protect people with pre-existing conditions

-gives states flexibility on what insurance plans cover

-repeals Obamacare's taxes

http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/322316-what-we-know-about-the-gops-healthcare-bill



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« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2017, 08:10:16 PM »

No way this goes badly
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« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2017, 08:15:35 PM »

The way this is going, anything they manage to drum up support for and pass is almost certainly going to be worse than PPACA, probably by a lot. How are they going to pay for a system that keeps the most popular parts of the Affordable Care Act but repeals the taxes they are after? Are they just going to explode the debt again and blame Democrats after they are booted out of office?

The GOP would be wise to make some fixes to the PPACA, maybe make a few changes that give themselves a little bit of what they want (cutting taxes on the wealthy), and just call it a day. They missed their shot a long time ago, and any plausible changes from them now is just going to inflict pain on their party and the country as a whole.
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« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2017, 08:19:20 PM »

No way they can pass a bill that kills the Medicaid expansion. There are at least 4 Republican Senators that say they will not vote for bill that doesn't keep the expansion.
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« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2017, 08:20:39 PM »

The way this is going, anything they manage to drum up support for and pass is almost certainly going to be worse than PPACA, probably by a lot. How are they going to pay for a system that keeps the most popular parts of the Affordable Care Act but repeals the taxes they are after? Are they just going to explode the debt again and blame Democrats after they are booted out of office?

The GOP would be wise to make some fixes to the PPACA, maybe make a few changes that give themselves a little bit of what they want (cutting taxes on the wealthy), and just call it a day. They missed their shot a long time ago, and any plausible changes from them now is just going to inflict pain on their party and the country as a whole.

There are ways to yank and replace it, more a la cart coverage, tax credits not fines, dropping state lines, among more in depth fixes like Medicare billing changes etc.
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« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2017, 08:26:16 PM »

This will not pass the Senate unchanged, but one way or another we will see a pared-down Obamacare replacement. 
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« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2017, 08:27:41 PM »

This will not pass the Senate unchanged, but one way or another we will see a pared-down Obamacare replacement. 

And a pared-down Obamacare replacement won't be able to pass either body as well.
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« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2017, 08:50:46 PM »

It would be funny if it wasn't so tragic.
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« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2017, 09:00:00 PM »

So what's the most likely outcome? Full repeal and no replace? Or is Obamacare here to stay?
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« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2017, 09:03:13 PM »

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« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2017, 09:13:08 PM »

So what's the most likely outcome? Full repeal and no replace? Or is Obamacare here to stay?
I'd put the odds at partial repeal partial replace.

Full repeal full replace would be preferred, because they have to fix the financial side, it will collapse without being fixed.

They can take the better elements around it and make it more feasible, a la cart coverage and the eliminating of state dictated oligopolies would be huge (health insurers should not be treated as public oligopolies)
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« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2017, 09:47:16 PM »

I will await the fine print before commenting. The GOP cannot sweep under the rug the issue of providing medical care for those without financial resources, and get away with it in the course of time. It will come back to bite them, and bad. There is no easy answer to this huge issue. All the choices involve great cost, or tossing over the transom the poor. And both parties are lying to us about that. The rapid advance of medical science and increasing life spans, have seen to that. I am very alienated from the public square these days. I find solace in a certain zip code - 12534. There I think I can do some good.
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« Reply #12 on: March 04, 2017, 10:02:04 PM »

I will await the fine print before commenting. The GOP cannot sweep under the rug the issue of providing medical care for those without financial resources, and get away with it in the course of time. It will come back to bite them, and bad. There is no easy answer to this huge issue. All the choices involve great cost, or tossing over the transom the poor. And both parties are lying to us about that. The rapid advance of medical science and increasing life spans, have seen to that. I am very alienated from the public square these days. I find solace in a certain zip code - 12534. There I think I can do some good.
What's Stockport got to do with it?
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« Reply #13 on: March 05, 2017, 07:38:10 AM »

I will await the fine print before commenting. The GOP cannot sweep under the rug the issue of providing medical care for those without financial resources, and get away with it in the course of time. It will come back to bite them, and bad. There is no easy answer to this huge issue. All the choices involve great cost, or tossing over the transom the poor. And both parties are lying to us about that. The rapid advance of medical science and increasing life spans, have seen to that. I am very alienated from the public square these days. I find solace in a certain zip code - 12534. There I think I can do some good.
What's Stockport got to do with it?

The zip code wanders around.
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