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« on: September 30, 2016, 10:24:33 AM »

I see this a lot for Bernie, but what if John McAfee had won the Libertarian nomination and picked a good running mate, would he be doing as well as or better than Johnson?
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« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2016, 10:59:05 AM »

He'd be polling similar to Stein I think, so worse than Johnson. McAfee is a smoother talker than Johnson, but the Gringo documentary would have been more damaging than any gaffe Johnson has made, even if it is largely fiction. I like McAfee personally, but can totally understand why he would be less appealing to a general audience.

My impression of how Johnson's performance as a candidate versus alternate-reality candidates puts him in second behind Weld:
1. Weld: would be polling ~10%
2. Johnson: polling ~8%
3. Ventura: would be polling ~6%
4. McAfee: would be polling ~4%
5. Petersen: would be polling ~4% (would not be in as many polls)
6. Perry: would be polling ~2% (and would not be in many polls at all)
Something like that.
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« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2016, 11:00:52 AM »

For a party (even a minor party) to have nominated someone more unstable and crazy than Trump is quite an accomplishment.

The man is known for software everyone hates and for possibly murdering someone.  On or around the same level as Stein, at best.
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« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2016, 11:01:34 AM »

Slightly worse than Johnson. It looks like third parties are fading across the board, though. More NeverTrumpers would surely flake off to McMuffin with McAfee because he is crazier and more unpalatable for them than Johnson.
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« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2016, 11:52:56 AM »

He's probably a murderer.  Worse than Johnson!  I find the how Petersen would be doing question more interesting, as I know a bunch of people who won't vote for Johnson because of abortion and other social issues, but who would have considered Petersen.
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« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2016, 02:39:47 PM »
« Edited: July 19, 2019, 04:20:13 AM by Celes »

Going to break the mold here. He'd be doing about the same as Johnson, if not a little bit better. What would kill him would be his VP choice of Judd Weiss. A McAfee/Weld ticket, though ideologically inconsistent, would have probably done quite well.

McAfee is, at minimum, a name people actually know outside of Atlas and college campuses. Operating on the very likely assumption that most of Stein's "supporters" will end up voting for Hillary Clinton come election day, McAfee would have not only the anti-Trump, anti-Clinton vote, but a substantial portion of the "have a beer with" vote, right there, based on demeanor, media access (vastly underrated on this forum), and just plain infamy. The Gringo documentary is like any other political scandal -- addressed and moved on from. McAfee is also a very persuasive speaker; his aesthetic and behavior is exactly what much of the populace was looking for. He has a fantastic ability to bring people onto his side and his raw intellect is unmatched in the party, save for possibly Bill Weld. The importance of a confident, convincing demeanor can not be overstated, especially in such a media-saturated election as this... again, remember McAfee's media access and connections. This would have been a big help.

The libertarian candidate wasn't going to win this election either way, so its affect on his "electability" is meaningless. But he would be doing probably as well as Johnson, and possibly a bit better. The importance of the Carlylian "great man" vote is drastically understated.

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« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2016, 02:41:33 PM »

He'd have eradicated all computer viruses.
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« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2016, 03:15:00 PM »

I think that, with approval of the main candidates at an all time low, but with his controversies. McAfee would be doing slightly worse than Johnson.

If he made the debates, he'd be doing far better than Johnson than if he made the debates.
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« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2016, 03:55:40 PM »

McAfee was born in London to parents who were not American citizens. The fact that he was flat out constitutionally barred from being President to begin with would have made his candidacy far more bizarre than Trump or Steins.
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« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2016, 04:10:09 PM »

McAfee was born in London to parents who were not American citizens. The fact that he was flat out constitutionally barred from being President to begin with would have made his candidacy far more bizarre than Trump or Steins.

He was born on a US Army base though.
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« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2016, 05:57:10 PM »

I see this a lot for Bernie, but what if John McAfee had won the Libertarian nomination and picked a good running mate, would he be doing as well as or better than Johnson?
The guy who allegedly murdered someone in Central America and created a bunch of crazy YouTube videos maligning the company he sold to Intel replete with guns (I believe drugs) and hookers would not be doing better than Johnson.

Not even close. He'd be lucky if he were pulling Stein numbers.
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« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2016, 06:14:06 PM »

I see this a lot for Bernie, but what if John McAfee had won the Libertarian nomination and picked a good running mate, would he be doing as well as or better than Johnson?
The guy who allegedly murdered someone in Central America and created a bunch of crazy YouTube videos maligning the company he sold to Intel replete with guns (I believe drugs) and hookers would not be doing better than Johnson.

Not even close. He'd be lucky if he were pulling Stein numbers.

This.  How could anyone think he'd be doing better than a popular former Governor?
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« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2016, 06:18:13 PM »

Badly. Possible murderers don't get elected president.

Austin Petersen may have done better than The Johnson, though.
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« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2016, 06:21:41 PM »

The reason Johnson is doing well is that NeverTrumpers can stomach him.
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« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2016, 07:28:15 PM »

McAfee was born in London to parents who were not American citizens. The fact that he was flat out constitutionally barred from being President to begin with would have made his candidacy far more bizarre than Trump or Steins.

Got any proof of this? or is this another birther witch hunt?
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« Reply #15 on: September 30, 2016, 07:29:07 PM »

Badly. Possible murderers don't get elected president.

Austin Petersen may have done better than The Johnson, though.

Even the Belize government has said he is innocent.  But keep thinking that.
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« Reply #16 on: September 30, 2016, 07:55:52 PM »

McAfee was born in London to parents who were not American citizens. The fact that he was flat out constitutionally barred from being President to begin with would have made his candidacy far more bizarre than Trump or Steins.

Got any proof of this? or is this another birther witch hunt?

He's eligible.  From an article in The Hill (http://thehill.com/policy/technology/252987-software-pioneer-mcafee-files-paperwork-to-run-for-president):

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What I learned in college Political Science (long before the birth of birtherism) is that the "natural born" clause simply means a person who became a citizen US at birth, under whatever rules defined citizenship at that time, as opposed to someone who became a citizen by naturalization.  There weren't any extra requirements such as those that people have invented in the last few years.
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« Reply #17 on: September 30, 2016, 08:05:53 PM »

He's totally unhinged so I guess polling at about 40% if he were the republican nominee
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