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« on: September 16, 2016, 12:03:39 PM »

http://www.latinodecisions.com/blog/2016/09/15/tbt-ld-edition-voters-candidates-and-enthusiasm/

'Hillary Clinton is five points ahead of where President Obama was at this point in his re-election campaign four years ago.'

'Today, 51 percent tell us that they are more enthused about voting this time compared to 2012. In the 2012 tracking poll series, enthusiasm peaked at 47% the week before election day. Thus, Latino voter enthusiasm has already eclipsed the high-mark observed in 2012.

Narratives of Clinton’s under performance among Latino voters have circulated at various points during this election cycle. We find no empirical basis for such claims. Our data, from comparable polls taken at identical points in the general election cycle, suggest that Secretary Clinton is poised to do as well, or perhaps better, than President Obama did in 2012 with the Latino electorate.'
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« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2016, 12:18:33 PM »

Sorry, but when poll after poll shows trump surging in the polls in various swing states and nationally, I am not going to let one latino advocacy group somehow change my opinion on what many different sets of polls and data show.

And the problem so many of the red avatars on here have is this- you assume that the margin among ALL OTHER groups will be the same as in 2012, and you simply substitute what latino decisions is saying the margin among mexicans will be in 2016.

Even if trump is doing worse with them, he could be doing MUCH better with white non-college people that is nullifies this in states like FL and NV.

This board worships these latino polls.
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« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2016, 12:26:23 PM »

Sorry, but when poll after poll shows trump surging in the polls in various swing states and nationally, I am not going to let one latino advocacy group somehow change my opinion on what many different sets of polls and data show.

Did you misinterpret the title? It's about Latino voters not the electorate in general. Latino Decisions is accurate, and they poll only Latino citizens whereas other polls tend to have smaller samples. Why is it surprising to you that Trump is doing poorly among Latinos? And him doing poorly among them doesn't mean he can't still be surging in the polls. I don't understand why you're conflating the two. Trump's unique problems with these particular voters aren't going away.

I dunno, it seems plenty likely to me that Trump is still climbing in the polls but also tanking among latinos.
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« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2016, 12:30:55 PM »

marty has been on a months-long "reading comprehension optional" rampage of Bad Atlas.
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« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2016, 01:03:38 PM »

Sorry, but when poll after poll shows trump surging in the polls in various swing states and nationally, I am not going to let one latino advocacy group somehow change my opinion on what many different sets of polls and data show.

And the problem so many of the red avatars on here have is this- you assume that the margin among ALL OTHER groups will be the same as in 2012, and you simply substitute what latino decisions is saying the margin among mexicans will be in 2016.

Even if trump is doing worse with them, he could be doing MUCH better with white non-college people that is nullifies this in states like FL and NV.

This board worships these latino polls.

Sucks the ignore button doesn't work on Marty.
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« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2016, 01:25:06 PM »

Sorry, but when poll after poll shows trump surging in the polls in various swing states and nationally, I am not going to let one latino advocacy group somehow change my opinion on what many different sets of polls and data show.

And the problem so many of the red avatars on here have is this- you assume that the margin among ALL OTHER groups will be the same as in 2012, and you simply substitute what latino decisions is saying the margin among mexicans will be in 2016.

Even if trump is doing worse with them, he could be doing MUCH better with white non-college people that is nullifies this in states like FL and NV.

This board worships these latino polls.

Sucks the ignore button doesn't work on Marty.

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« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2016, 01:26:51 PM »
« Edited: September 16, 2016, 01:49:24 PM by Arch »

Polls are underestimating Latino enthusiasm to stop this monster. I would not be surprised with turnout around the lines of 60% among Hispanics.
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« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2016, 01:48:32 PM »

Polls and underestimating Latino enthusiasm to stop this monster. I would not be surprised with turnout around the lines of 60% among Hispanics.

we can only hope that our beautiful latino communities show Donald Trump the true meaning of karma.
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« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2016, 02:07:36 PM »

Polls and underestimating Latino enthusiasm to stop this monster. I would not be surprised with turnout around the lines of 60% among Hispanics.

we can only hope that our beautiful latino communities show Donald Trump the true meaning of karma.
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