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« Reply #50 on: August 30, 2016, 11:21:38 AM »
« edited: August 30, 2016, 11:28:53 AM by Seriously? »

I hope they counted the first few questions if you hung up on PPP this poll. As a Republican, I'd be incensed if I had to go through those nonsensical, sophomoric questions about Trump vs. Zika. It reeks of unprofessionalism and is insulting.

A few questions, fine, but like 20 of them. I'd think the thing was a joke or a Democrat push poll. Especially as an IVR poll.

If they didn't, you may honestly have a sample bias.
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« Reply #51 on: August 30, 2016, 12:45:16 PM »

it's honestly pretty remarkable that this poll is as consistent as it is - Clinton and Trump's favorables each decrease by five, and they each lose some voters.

which means, hilariously, the whole PIVOT isn't exactly working so far.
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« Reply #52 on: August 30, 2016, 12:57:33 PM »

Trump only wins whites by 15 - not nearly a large enough margin to win.
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« Reply #53 on: August 30, 2016, 03:13:02 PM »

Somewhat encouraging.  Maybe the +13 Monmouth was just a yuge outlier and things are settling into Clinton +4-6 rather than steadily drifting toward Trump.

Of course Monmouth was an outlier. I think we're sitting in an 08-esque position right now.

And the ever-crucial Labor Day Weekend draws close.

All of these statements sound accurate....

As others noted on the first page of the thread, the no change in the PPP National poll from the end of July to end of August is the most positive development.

Ipsos could be indicating a slight tightening of the race, but then again their numbers have been a bit over the map the past month.

Aren't we getting close to another round of A-Grade Marist/ABC-WP/NBC-WSJ polls soon that should give us a better idea of where the national numbers are really at?
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« Reply #54 on: August 30, 2016, 03:21:52 PM »

I hope they counted the first few questions if you hung up on PPP this poll. As a Republican, I'd be incensed if I had to go through those nonsensical, sophomoric questions about Trump vs. Zika. It reeks of unprofessionalism and is insulting.

A few questions, fine, but like 20 of them. I'd think the thing was a joke or a Democrat push poll. Especially as an IVR poll.

If they didn't, you may honestly have a sample bias.
Trump is the ultimate sh*tposter, though.
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« Reply #55 on: August 31, 2016, 08:22:54 PM »

But I thought the race was tightening and us Hillary supporters should be sweating!

I mean, it objectively is tightening. But that was obviously going to happen when she was leading by 8-10 points. That's not sustainable in such a polarized environment and was clearly a convention bounce.

Of course, then the resident trolls and chicken littles try to extrapolate her numbers coming back down to earth to "SHE'S DOOMED! TRUMP IS INEVITABLE!11!!!"
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« Reply #56 on: August 31, 2016, 08:25:45 PM »

But I thought the race was tightening and us Hillary supporters should be sweating!
LOL

First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.
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« Reply #57 on: September 02, 2016, 10:49:32 AM »

One good thing that PPP does that few if any of the other pollsters are doing is separating out how much Johnson draws from Clinton vs. Trump as opposed to how much Stein draws from Clinton vs. Trump:

People who support Clinton in the 2-way race:
Clinton 87%
Stein 5%
Johnson 4%
McMullin 0%
Undecided 3%

People who support Trump in the 2-way race:
Trump 88%
Johnson 4%
McMullin 1%
Stein 1%
Undecided 6%

So, unsurprisingly, Johnson pulls evenly from Clinton and Trump, while Stein pulls mostly from Clinton.  OTOH, the addition of the 3rd party candidates moves some Trump voters to “undecided”.
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