Johnson Supports Carbon Tax to Fight Climate Change

[Lachi]

TBH, a carbon tax doesn't sound completely horrible to me. Taxes on externalities make more sense than taxes on income or consumption, IMO.

BC has had a carbon tax for a while now and it's working out pretty well. I'm probably going to vote for the Washington carbon tax initiative.

Australia had a carbon tax, there were nearly riots trying to force the government to repeal it.

[Rules for me, but not for thee]

TBH, a carbon tax doesn't sound completely horrible to me. Taxes on externalities make more sense than taxes on income or consumption, IMO.

BC has had a carbon tax for a while now and it's working out pretty well. I'm probably going to vote for the Washington carbon tax initiative.

Australia had a carbon tax, there were nearly riots trying to force the government to repeal it.

Well you have to use it to replace other taxes otherwise probably that would happen here too, because DEY TOOK ARE COAL JERBS

[OSR stands with Israel]

Fee =/= Tax

But but but, I thought he was a small tax conservative, now he wants to raise taxes.
http://dailycaller.com/2016/08/22/gary-johnson-backs-co2-fee-to-fight-global-warming/

You're absolutely outraged that anyone wants to use incentives to fight climate change instead of expensive government intervention?

Also, literally every Republican President since World War Two has raised taxes.

Not W bush , and Reagan

[Mr. Smith]

Fee =/= Tax

But but but, I thought he was a small tax conservative, now he wants to raise taxes.
http://dailycaller.com/2016/08/22/gary-johnson-backs-co2-fee-to-fight-global-warming/

You're absolutely outraged that anyone wants to use incentives to fight climate change instead of expensive government intervention?

Also, literally every Republican President since World War Two has raised taxes.

Not W bush , and Reagan

Reagan did, right after 1984 where he had the convenience of plausibly denying such things in the face of someone who upfront blurted out that taxes had to be raised.

[Young Conservative]

Fee =/= Tax

But but but, I thought he was a small tax conservative, now he wants to raise taxes.
http://dailycaller.com/2016/08/22/gary-johnson-backs-co2-fee-to-fight-global-warming/

You're absolutely outraged that anyone wants to use incentives to fight climate change instead of expensive government intervention?

Also, literally every Republican President since World War Two has raised taxes.

Republican=/= conservative. And most cut more than they raised

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Johnson is basically moulding his campaign to try and be endorsed by The Economist (which will be an unsuccessful endeavour) so it's no surprise.

[Shameless Lefty Hack]

TAXATION IS THEFT!!! TAXATION IS THEFT!!! TAXATION IS THEFT!!! [/rothbard]

Man, has anyone sounded the Libertarian Party activists to figure out if they're going along with all the  middle/left positions Johnson/Weld are taking?

Fee =/= Tax

But but but, I thought he was a small tax conservative, now he wants to raise taxes.
http://dailycaller.com/2016/08/22/gary-johnson-backs-co2-fee-to-fight-global-warming/

You're absolutely outraged that anyone wants to use incentives to fight climate change instead of expensive government intervention?

Also, literally every Republican President since World War Two has raised taxes.

Ah yes, but as NFIB v Sebelius taught us, a fee/fine *is * a tax.

WHICH IS THEFT!!!

[sparkey]

Johnson isn't going for big-L Libertarians right now, he already won us convincingly. And a carbon tax isn't the greatest Libertarian heresy. The "pure" libertarian solution to carbon emissions (outside of letting them be) is usually some sort of class-action law scheme, which honestly would have a similar effect as a carbon tax anyway. I could be wrong, but I think most Libertarians would prefer a carbon tax to cap-and-trade.

I haven't responded to the thread about how you disagree with your own party, but I've considered responding to it by saying that I think a carbon tax is reasonable.

[Sir Mohamed]

Good move. Looks like the party is just a vehicle for him and he’s actually some sort of a centrist.

[RINO Tom]

Good, I like him even more.  As others have said, SOME taxes are necessary, and some are a good idea (this).  His proposal stops well short of what mainstream American liberals would push tax-wise.

[Gustaf]

Ideologically this isn't actually strange. If there is one tax libertarians should be ok with it's probably this.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

fee, tax, same difference.  It is encouraging that he is open to this idea.  This is one of those things that conservative and libertarian economists have supported for a long time but just gets a reaction from the right against it as soon as it enters the political sphere.

[Mallow]

This thread renews my hope for humanity. Thanks, everyone.

[Ljube]

Carbon tax is anti-libertarian.

[Fight for Trump]

Proof that Johnson is just a liberal with a thesaurus.

[PresidentSamTilden]

This doesn't seem very libertarian, lol. But hey, I'm in favor of it.