The Figs Vault For The Preservation Of Ridiculous False Equivilencies

[Fuzzy Bear]

This post, comparing immigration policy to campaign violations, was my inspiration for this.

Blue avatars: The law must’ve enforced!

Also blue avatars: Campaign finance violations basically aren’t even really crimes!

[Politician]

Pennsylvania's 8th.

but atlas tells me that cartwright is safe because he won by 8 points in a D+9 year.

Atlas thinks any Democrat that won by more than 0.1% is a Congressman for life but any Republican that won by less than 10 points is deeply vulnerable in 2020 and 2022 and 2024 and 2026 etc. etc. because every year will always be a Democratic tsunami, duh!

[Hindsight was 2020]

There is nothing ridiculous about it. The thread in question was about a little girl dying in a boarder portal camp and how you and blue atlas are dismissing it because “law and order” while this week has seen Trump became a felon to a collective shrug from you guys. The only thing ridiculous is when it comes to illegal immigration you and blue atlas are a bunch of mini-Javert where no action is harsh enough because “the law is the law” but when it comes to Trump it’s a collective shrug because “hey where’s the victim?”

[Fuzzy Bear]

There is nothing ridiculous about it. The thread in question was about a little girl dying in a boarder portal amp and how you and blue atlas are dismissing it because “law and order” while this week has seen Trump became a felon to a collective shrug from you guys. The only thing ridiculous is when it comes to illegal immigration you and blue atlas are a bunch of mini-Javert where no action is harsh enough because “the law is the law” but when it comes to Trump it’s a collective shrug because “hey where’s the victim?”

I'm talking about the principle of enforcing our immigration laws, violations of which do, indeed, impact American citizens negatively.

The responsibility for that child's death rests with the foolish adults who brought the child along on their illegal entry into the United States.  Period.

[America Needs R'hllor]

There is nothing ridiculous about it. The thread in question was about a little girl dying in a boarder portal amp and how you and blue atlas are dismissing it because “law and order” while this week has seen Trump became a felon to a collective shrug from you guys. The only thing ridiculous is when it comes to illegal immigration you and blue atlas are a bunch of mini-Javert where no action is harsh enough because “the law is the law” but when it comes to Trump it’s a collective shrug because “hey where’s the victim?”

I'm talking about the principle of enforcing our immigration laws, violations of which do, indeed, impact American citizens negatively.

The responsibility for that child's death rests with the foolish adults who brought the child along on their illegal entry into the United States.  Period.

No, it rests with the irresponsible authorities that need to make sure ANY CHILD IN THEIR CUSTODY DOESN'T F**ING DIE.

Seriously, this post was incredibly cruel and heartless. You can be an immigration hawk, but you need you be a human to fellow humans.

[Hindsight was 2020]

There is nothing ridiculous about it. The thread in question was about a little girl dying in a boarder portal amp and how you and blue atlas are dismissing it because “law and order” while this week has seen Trump became a felon to a collective shrug from you guys. The only thing ridiculous is when it comes to illegal immigration you and blue atlas are a bunch of mini-Javert where no action is harsh enough because “the law is the law” but when it comes to Trump it’s a collective shrug because “hey where’s the victim?”

I'm talking about the principle of enforcing our immigration laws, violations of which do, indeed, impact American citizens negatively.

The responsibility for that child's death rests with the foolish adults who brought the child along on their illegal entry into the United States.  Period.

Again you’re talking about “the principal of enforcing laws” but don’t give a sh*t about Trump being a law breaker. An you’ll jump through mental loops to justify it but at the end of the day you’re just hypocritical caring about the law when it concerns people who are not your “team”

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

There is nothing ridiculous about it. The thread in question was about a little girl dying in a boarder portal amp and how you and blue atlas are dismissing it because “law and order” while this week has seen Trump became a felon to a collective shrug from you guys. The only thing ridiculous is when it comes to illegal immigration you and blue atlas are a bunch of mini-Javert where no action is harsh enough because “the law is the law” but when it comes to Trump it’s a collective shrug because “hey where’s the victim?”

I'm talking about the principle of enforcing our immigration laws, violations of which do, indeed, impact American citizens negatively.

The responsibility for that child's death rests with the foolish adults who brought the child along on their illegal entry into the United States.  Period.

Again you’re talking about “the principal of enforcing laws” but don’t give a sh*t about Trump being a law breaker. An you’ll jump through mental loops to justify it but at the end of the day you’re just hypocritical caring about the law when it concerns people who are not your “team”

Do you know FuzzyBear??

[Fuzzy Bear]

There is nothing ridiculous about it. The thread in question was about a little girl dying in a boarder portal amp and how you and blue atlas are dismissing it because “law and order” while this week has seen Trump became a felon to a collective shrug from you guys. The only thing ridiculous is when it comes to illegal immigration you and blue atlas are a bunch of mini-Javert where no action is harsh enough because “the law is the law” but when it comes to Trump it’s a collective shrug because “hey where’s the victim?”

I'm talking about the principle of enforcing our immigration laws, violations of which do, indeed, impact American citizens negatively.

The responsibility for that child's death rests with the foolish adults who brought the child along on their illegal entry into the United States.  Period.

No, it rests with the irresponsible authorities that need to make sure ANY CHILD IN THEIR CUSTODY DOESN'T F**ING DIE.

Seriously, this post was incredibly cruel and heartless. You can be an immigration hawk, but you need you be a human to fellow humans.

If this child were brought to an American hospital and that child died, the focus of the subsequent investigation would be on the sort of care the child experienced prior to coming to the hospital once immediate negligence was ruled out.  No it wasn't the hospital dropping the child on his/her head; it was the parents who decided to take the kid on a motorcycle ride in the rain without a helmet. 

Let's be real here.  I feel badly for the kid, but the ICE and Border Patrol folks are humans too.  Thie child's death is a tragedy, but blaming folks for a tragedy where they have no blame is not right, now or ever, and that's what people are doing.

At what point do people say that it is right and just that we enforce our immigration laws as they are?  That's the issue I have.  We need to spend whatever we need to spend for adequate and humane housing of detainees pending deportation that includes medical care, but that's not the issue here.  I've said this very thing many times, but no one seems to note that aspect, as if it's somehow not relevant.

I'm also ridiculed for asserting "The Rule of Law".  That's find, but the reason this Lawless Caravan makes it's way to Ameirca to crash its borders is driven by the utter lack of The Rule of Law in their countries of origin.  Perhaps those who disagree with me will show me that, yes, one CAN have it both ways, but I suppose I will need to be shown.

[Hindsight was 2020]

There is nothing ridiculous about it. The thread in question was about a little girl dying in a boarder portal amp and how you and blue atlas are dismissing it because “law and order” while this week has seen Trump became a felon to a collective shrug from you guys. The only thing ridiculous is when it comes to illegal immigration you and blue atlas are a bunch of mini-Javert where no action is harsh enough because “the law is the law” but when it comes to Trump it’s a collective shrug because “hey where’s the victim?”

I'm talking about the principle of enforcing our immigration laws, violations of which do, indeed, impact American citizens negatively.

The responsibility for that child's death rests with the foolish adults who brought the child along on their illegal entry into the United States.  Period.

No, it rests with the irresponsible authorities that need to make sure ANY CHILD IN THEIR CUSTODY DOESN'T F**ING DIE.

Seriously, this post was incredibly cruel and heartless. You can be an immigration hawk, but you need you be a human to fellow humans.

If this child were brought to an American hospital and that child died, the focus of the subsequent investigation would be on the sort of care the child experienced prior to coming to the hospital once immediate negligence was ruled out.  No it wasn't the hospital dropping the child on his/her head; it was the parents who decided to take the kid on a motorcycle ride in the rain without a helmet. 

Let's be real here.  I feel badly for the kid, but the ICE and Border Patrol folks are humans too.  Thie child's death is a tragedy, but blaming folks for a tragedy where they have no blame is not right, now or ever, and that's what people are doing.

At what point do people say that it is right and just that we enforce our immigration laws as they are?  That's the issue I have.  We need to spend whatever we need to spend for adequate and humane housing of detainees pending deportation that includes medical care, but that's not the issue here.  I've said this very thing many times, but no one seems to note that aspect, as if it's somehow not relevant.

I'm also ridiculed for asserting "The Rule of Law".  That's find, but the reason this Lawless Caravan makes it's way to Ameirca to crash its borders is driven by the utter lack of The Rule of Law in their countries of origin.  Perhaps those who disagree with me will show me that, yes, one CAN have it both ways, but I suppose I will need to be shown.

Again you’re dodging the point. The ridicule is because you pick and choose when you care about the enforcement of the law

[Fuzzy Bear]

There is nothing ridiculous about it. The thread in question was about a little girl dying in a boarder portal amp and how you and blue atlas are dismissing it because “law and order” while this week has seen Trump became a felon to a collective shrug from you guys. The only thing ridiculous is when it comes to illegal immigration you and blue atlas are a bunch of mini-Javert where no action is harsh enough because “the law is the law” but when it comes to Trump it’s a collective shrug because “hey where’s the victim?”

I'm talking about the principle of enforcing our immigration laws, violations of which do, indeed, impact American citizens negatively.

The responsibility for that child's death rests with the foolish adults who brought the child along on their illegal entry into the United States.  Period.

No, it rests with the irresponsible authorities that need to make sure ANY CHILD IN THEIR CUSTODY DOESN'T F**ING DIE.

Seriously, this post was incredibly cruel and heartless. You can be an immigration hawk, but you need you be a human to fellow humans.

If this child were brought to an American hospital and that child died, the focus of the subsequent investigation would be on the sort of care the child experienced prior to coming to the hospital once immediate negligence was ruled out.  No it wasn't the hospital dropping the child on his/her head; it was the parents who decided to take the kid on a motorcycle ride in the rain without a helmet. 

Let's be real here.  I feel badly for the kid, but the ICE and Border Patrol folks are humans too.  Thie child's death is a tragedy, but blaming folks for a tragedy where they have no blame is not right, now or ever, and that's what people are doing.

At what point do people say that it is right and just that we enforce our immigration laws as they are?  That's the issue I have.  We need to spend whatever we need to spend for adequate and humane housing of detainees pending deportation that includes medical care, but that's not the issue here.  I've said this very thing many times, but no one seems to note that aspect, as if it's somehow not relevant.

I'm also ridiculed for asserting "The Rule of Law".  That's find, but the reason this Lawless Caravan makes it's way to Ameirca to crash its borders is driven by the utter lack of The Rule of Law in their countries of origin.  Perhaps those who disagree with me will show me that, yes, one CAN have it both ways, but I suppose I will need to be shown.

Again you’re dodging the point. The ridicule is because you pick and choose when you care about the enforcement of the law

When have I said that laws need not be enforced?

I'm not advocating a pardon for Paul Manafort.  When and where have I said that laws should not be enforced?

[Hindsight was 2020]

There is nothing ridiculous about it. The thread in question was about a little girl dying in a boarder portal amp and how you and blue atlas are dismissing it because “law and order” while this week has seen Trump became a felon to a collective shrug from you guys. The only thing ridiculous is when it comes to illegal immigration you and blue atlas are a bunch of mini-Javert where no action is harsh enough because “the law is the law” but when it comes to Trump it’s a collective shrug because “hey where’s the victim?”

I'm talking about the principle of enforcing our immigration laws, violations of which do, indeed, impact American citizens negatively.

The responsibility for that child's death rests with the foolish adults who brought the child along on their illegal entry into the United States.  Period.

No, it rests with the irresponsible authorities that need to make sure ANY CHILD IN THEIR CUSTODY DOESN'T F**ING DIE.

Seriously, this post was incredibly cruel and heartless. You can be an immigration hawk, but you need you be a human to fellow humans.

If this child were brought to an American hospital and that child died, the focus of the subsequent investigation would be on the sort of care the child experienced prior to coming to the hospital once immediate negligence was ruled out.  No it wasn't the hospital dropping the child on his/her head; it was the parents who decided to take the kid on a motorcycle ride in the rain without a helmet. 

Let's be real here.  I feel badly for the kid, but the ICE and Border Patrol folks are humans too.  Thie child's death is a tragedy, but blaming folks for a tragedy where they have no blame is not right, now or ever, and that's what people are doing.

At what point do people say that it is right and just that we enforce our immigration laws as they are?  That's the issue I have.  We need to spend whatever we need to spend for adequate and humane housing of detainees pending deportation that includes medical care, but that's not the issue here.  I've said this very thing many times, but no one seems to note that aspect, as if it's somehow not relevant.

I'm also ridiculed for asserting "The Rule of Law".  That's find, but the reason this Lawless Caravan makes it's way to Ameirca to crash its borders is driven by the utter lack of The Rule of Law in their countries of origin.  Perhaps those who disagree with me will show me that, yes, one CAN have it both ways, but I suppose I will need to be shown.

Again you’re dodging the point. The ridicule is because you pick and choose when you care about the enforcement of the law

When have I said that laws need not be enforced?

I'm not advocating a pardon for Paul Manafort.  When and where have I said that laws should not be enforced?

You literally made this thread attacking Figs for pointing out how hypocritical Atlas blue is for defending what happened to that girl because “the law is the law” in a week that saw them shrug their shoulders over Trump being a felon. Quite frankly it seems you made this thread because Fig’s point went completely over your head

[Fuzzy Bear]

There is nothing ridiculous about it. The thread in question was about a little girl dying in a boarder portal amp and how you and blue atlas are dismissing it because “law and order” while this week has seen Trump became a felon to a collective shrug from you guys. The only thing ridiculous is when it comes to illegal immigration you and blue atlas are a bunch of mini-Javert where no action is harsh enough because “the law is the law” but when it comes to Trump it’s a collective shrug because “hey where’s the victim?”

I'm talking about the principle of enforcing our immigration laws, violations of which do, indeed, impact American citizens negatively.

The responsibility for that child's death rests with the foolish adults who brought the child along on their illegal entry into the United States.  Period.

No, it rests with the irresponsible authorities that need to make sure ANY CHILD IN THEIR CUSTODY DOESN'T F**ING DIE.

Seriously, this post was incredibly cruel and heartless. You can be an immigration hawk, but you need you be a human to fellow humans.

If this child were brought to an American hospital and that child died, the focus of the subsequent investigation would be on the sort of care the child experienced prior to coming to the hospital once immediate negligence was ruled out.  No it wasn't the hospital dropping the child on his/her head; it was the parents who decided to take the kid on a motorcycle ride in the rain without a helmet. 

Let's be real here.  I feel badly for the kid, but the ICE and Border Patrol folks are humans too.  Thie child's death is a tragedy, but blaming folks for a tragedy where they have no blame is not right, now or ever, and that's what people are doing.

At what point do people say that it is right and just that we enforce our immigration laws as they are?  That's the issue I have.  We need to spend whatever we need to spend for adequate and humane housing of detainees pending deportation that includes medical care, but that's not the issue here.  I've said this very thing many times, but no one seems to note that aspect, as if it's somehow not relevant.

I'm also ridiculed for asserting "The Rule of Law".  That's find, but the reason this Lawless Caravan makes it's way to Ameirca to crash its borders is driven by the utter lack of The Rule of Law in their countries of origin.  Perhaps those who disagree with me will show me that, yes, one CAN have it both ways, but I suppose I will need to be shown.

Again you’re dodging the point. The ridicule is because you pick and choose when you care about the enforcement of the law

When have I said that laws need not be enforced?

I'm not advocating a pardon for Paul Manafort.  When and where have I said that laws should not be enforced?

You literally made this thread attacking Figs for pointing out how hypocritical Atlas blue is for defending what happened to that girl because “the law is the law” in a week that saw them shrug their shoulders over Trump being a felon. Quite frankly it seems you made this thread because Fig’s point went completely over your head

Trump is not a felon; he has not been convicted of any crime.

When he is convicted of a felony, should that happens, then a felon he will be.

That's basic fairness; the presumption of innocence.  Or is that only for red avatars.  Figs earned his distinction, as far as I'm concerned.  What the rest of Atlas thinks of that narrow issue, I care not.

[The Dowager Mod]

I have a feeling I'll be locking this thread.

[Figueira]

How dare someone make an equivalence between a crime committed by a white person and a crime committed by a non-white person!

[AudmanOut]

I have a feeling I'll be locking this thread.

Please do!

[Joe Republic]

This thread went as well as anybody (except Fuzzy Bear) could have expected.  Good job!

[Fuzzy Bear]

I have a feeling I'll be locking this thread.

I'll save you the trouble.