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« on: February 28, 2016, 06:45:08 PM »

2012:

White (67%): 61-37 Romney
Black (13%): 95-4 Obama
Hispanic (17%): 60-39 Obama
Other (3%): 59-39 Obama (?)

Statewide result: 50-49 Obama

My guess for 2016 (if Trump wins FL):

White (65%): 64-34 Trump  (+6)
Black (13%): 92-7 Clinton (+6)
Hispanic (19%): 65-34 Clinton (-10)
Other (3%): 63-35 Clinton (-8)

Statewide result: 50.02% Trump, 48.30% Clinton

Hard to see him doing better than that, even though FL is a must-win for Trump.
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« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2016, 06:47:42 PM »

He could win without Florida, but it would require flipping Michigan and Pennsylvania.
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« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2016, 06:56:09 PM »

He could win without Florida, but it would require flipping Michigan and Pennsylvania.

Pie in the sky. Good luck with that.
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« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2016, 06:59:00 PM »

How can TRUMP win Florida? Easy.
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« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2016, 06:59:03 PM »

He could win without Florida, but it would require flipping Michigan and Pennsylvania.

Yeah, but CO too, where the Hispanic vote could kill him as well. Don't see him winning VA, MN or WI. He should really try to avoid getting totally crushed among non-whites.

That is kinda difficult when you are spouting talk about building a wall non-stop. Plus blacks will be hardcore for Hillary, and unwilling to consider Trump's lunacy.
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« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2016, 07:00:07 PM »


I heard the same crap in 2012 about Romney. EPIC FAIL!
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« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2016, 07:00:59 PM »

Run it up with retirees, like he's currently doing. Polls have him leading there.
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« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2016, 07:01:08 PM »

How will Palm Beach Jews feel when Trump tells them that he wants them as his accountants?
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« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2016, 07:01:40 PM »

All TRUMP needs to do is attract Missing White Voters.
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« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2016, 07:02:37 PM »

Meg Whitman (CEO of HP and Republican) on Donald Trump:

Donald Trump is unfit to be President. He is a dishonest demagogue who plays to our worst fears.
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« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2016, 07:03:02 PM »

All TRUMP needs to do is attract Missing White Voters.

I've heard that there is a map to them on the back of the Declaration of Independence.
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« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2016, 07:17:27 PM »

As of now, Florida looks like Trump's most likely Waterloo.  His best chance is to run up the score with white seniors, but he's been hinting at anti-semitism one too many times to really max out the Florida retiree vote IMO.

Another interesting question is has Trump been sufficiently pro-Israel with his isolationist foreign policy?
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« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2016, 07:18:11 PM »

As of now, Florida looks like Trump's most likely Waterloo.  His best chance is to run up the score with white seniors, but he's been hinting at anti-semitism one too many times to really max out the Florida retiree vote IMO.

Well, nobody says TRUMP will cruise in Florida. It's gonna be close.
In fact, more than a year ago I made a post predicting that Florida will be like in 2000, extremely close.
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« Reply #13 on: February 28, 2016, 07:25:41 PM »

By outperforming Romney with whites, blacks, and hispanics. Yes, hispanics.
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« Reply #14 on: February 28, 2016, 07:58:45 PM »

By outperforming Romney with black and hispanics. Yes, hispanics.

If you're talking the GE then you are deluded. DELUDED!
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« Reply #15 on: February 28, 2016, 08:37:46 PM »

Romney, a somewhat poor candidate, lost the state by less than 1% while running against an incumbent with elite speaking skills and charisma.

Trump can take it against Hillary; just run a strong campaign and maintain support amongst whites while increasing support with Blacks, Asians and Hispanics.

Obama, for example, actually won Cubans in 2012, which I think no Democratic President had done before. I think the GOP can get this group back, as this group voted for them consistently in the past.

1. Maintaining support among whites is going to be far harder than people seem to think for Trump. The idea that all the typical Republican voters will not be offended, ashamed, or even scared of a Trump presidency is ludicrous. He'll maintain a lot of support if for no other reason than partisanship, but he'll have a very hard time keeping Romney's 59%. Especially if he continues to be cheap with campaign spending. Regardless of popularity, expensive GOTV and other operations are still highly necessary.

2. Increasing support among Hispanics/African Americans/Asians is going to be basically impossible for Hispanics for obvious reasons, improbable for AAs beyond 8% - 9% at best, and probably not good with Asians either as they have shown to be increasingly Democratic at the presidential level and also swayed by immigration talk.

3. For Cubans - It's not that Republicans lost their vote solely because Cubans just turned on them - It's because the younger generation is replacing the older Cubans, who are the staunch Republicans. The younger Cubans are much more open to the Democratic policy, and it's helping to realign the Hispanic vote as a whole in Florida towards Democrats.

So it's not something they can just fix, and definitely not with Trump. The Cuban vote in Florida is undergoing structural changes now and that solid Republican support is fading as the older generation "ages out" of the electorate.
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« Reply #16 on: February 28, 2016, 09:05:07 PM »

...not to mention the mass exodus of Puerto Ricans to Central Florida,   which almost without question will benefit the Democrats since they're already US Citizens. 
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« Reply #17 on: February 29, 2016, 12:52:39 AM »

As of now, Florida looks like Trump's most likely Waterloo.  His best chance is to run up the score with white seniors, but he's been hinting at anti-semitism one too many times to really max out the Florida retiree vote IMO.

Well, nobody says TRUMP will cruise in Florida.

More arguments for Marco Rubio as nominee, who has a lot of experience at cruising in Florida.
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« Reply #18 on: February 29, 2016, 01:16:39 AM »

Simple: Purge the voter rolls. If low-energy Jeb could do it as governor, Trump should have no problem pulling some strings with Voldemort.
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« Reply #19 on: February 29, 2016, 01:17:10 AM »

Appeal to the old He-Coon voters.
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« Reply #20 on: February 29, 2016, 02:11:42 AM »

Simple: Purge the voter rolls. If low-energy Jeb could do it as governor, Trump should have no problem pulling some strings with Voldemort.

Now you're catching on! However, Rick Scott did indeed try to have the rolls purged before the 2012 election and it was stopped by a federal judge. With that in mind, it is unlikely any other substantial purges would be permitted this year.
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« Reply #21 on: February 29, 2016, 09:40:04 AM »

Choose Rubio as his VP. Would certainly help possibly slightly put him over the edge against Clinton there, would be close regardless.
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« Reply #22 on: February 29, 2016, 09:41:22 AM »

Do well with Cuban's and raise his stakes with AA voters, other than that, he would need to either get around 35-40% of the Hispanic voter and probably 10-12% of the AA vote.
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« Reply #23 on: February 29, 2016, 03:23:35 PM »

Rubio as Trump's V.P. The stuff these two guys are saying against each other, is in 'yo momma' territory and Trump will not pick "little marco" as a result of the carry on. Trump is not a personally or politically magnanimous as Ronald Reagan or John F. Kennedy were; let's put it this way Marco Rubio is no LBJ nor is Donald Trump  a JFK😉
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