Why are people hating on Jeb Bush?

[hopper]

At this point, Dems will be happy to run against him. But, he was the dynasty candidate, that didnt meet expectations. Like Mitt Romney who lost in 2012.

The Bushie family misread the country & thought he had an electoral advantage like Dubya had. But, country, just like improving economy has moved on.

Improving Economy? I think its funny whenever I read the words "improving economy" posted on these threads.

To get to a more serious point I think Jeb's Campaign that he is running now could have been ran from 1996-2004 and it would have worked. However in the Obama Years the way of campaigning for President has changed like you need more of a personal message to voters and a certain  tone to connect with voters. That's what Jeb is missing that his "tone" isn't right and isn't connecting with voters and his message isn't connecting either.

[hopper]

Because he is part of dynastic politics his father and brother got us into unnecessary wars. His father broke his pledge to not raise taxes and his brother ruined the economy and gave us two disastrous programs. Medicare Part D and No Child Left Behind. We don't need another Bush.

I disagree with Bush HW breaking his tax pledge I think it was the right thing to do in the long run. I do agree with you about Medicare Part D. Its not that Medicare Part D isn't a good program its that it wasn't paid for.

[EliteLX]

Atlas' satirical liberals such as our dear user Leif and such are having play day with Jeb Bush because they are excellent at running already exhausted memes into the ground. It's an attempt at humor, friends.

It's also a political bandwagon to hold grudge to a candidate who they can not name a single beef about other than the fact that he's more politically accomplished than any candidate of theirs found on either side of the aisle. The "low energy" Atlas meme is on the rise due to lack of sound logical attacks around this forum, because who's going to argue logic when I can just ride the l0wenergyLOSERrightguys?lol wave and automatically win an argument by having 35+ other red avatars quote my attack. The logical & argumentative fallacies committed around this forum on a day to day basis is somewhat disturbing for people actually trying to contribute to political discussion.

Some of us truly are surrounded by idiots.

[#TheShadowyAbyss]

Atlas' satirical liberals such as our dear user Leif and such are having play day with Jeb Bush because they are excellent at running already exhausted memes into the ground. It's an attempt at humor, friends.

It's also a political bandwagon to hold grudge to a candidate who they can not name a single beef about other than the fact that he's more politically accomplished than any candidate of theirs found on either side of the aisle. The "low energy" Atlas meme is on the rise due to lack of sound logical attacks around this forum, because who's going to argue logic when I can just ride the l0wenergyLOSERrightguys?lol wave and automatically win an argument by having 35+ other red avatars quote my attack. The logical & argumentative fallacies committed around this forum on a day to day basis is somewhat disturbing for people actually trying to contribute to political discussion.

Some of us truly are surrounded by idiots.

There is a reason why this forum is declining....

[Maxwell]

Atlas' satirical liberals such as our dear user Leif and such are having play day with Jeb Bush because they are excellent at running already exhausted memes into the ground. It's an attempt at humor, friends.

It's also a political bandwagon to hold grudge to a candidate who they can not name a single beef about other than the fact that he's more politically accomplished than any candidate of theirs found on either side of the aisle. The "low energy" Atlas meme is on the rise due to lack of sound logical attacks around this forum, because who's going to argue logic when I can just ride the l0wenergyLOSERrightguys?lol wave and automatically win an argument by having 35+ other red avatars quote my attack. The logical & argumentative fallacies committed around this forum on a day to day basis is somewhat disturbing for people actually trying to contribute to political discussion.

Some of us truly are surrounded by idiots.

He's not the most politically accomplished candidate of either side of the aisle. He's someone whose benefitted from a good family name (the only reason he even got close to Lawton Chiles), a housing bubble (the reason for Florida's growth), and the hearts of big money donors. If he had none of that, He'd be on the debate stage with George Pataki. I also think his family has done tremendous damage to our country. His economic ideas are dangerous and bad. His social values continue to resonate with those I don't want dog catcher, much less President. But most of all, I don't want someone President who would be completely beholden to the kind of donors that I don't want having control of this country. There is no way he could be independent of their wishes. I have tons of beefs with Jeb Bush, just as much as I do with most of the rest of the Republican field.

[Fuzzy Bear]

Good question.

I think in this day and age when folks are accustomed to being entertained, when a serious leader comes forward, he/she is laughed off. Jeb Bush was successful in business, he was a very successful Governor, and he's the best versed on policy in this campaign and has the broadest understanding of what we need to do to both grow our economy and protect this country. But he isn't saying wild things, he isn't the best in debates, and he's not the most entertaining candidate. Those who are laughing at him don't take the presidency very seriously. Those who call him "low energy" are not serious about policy. You have a lot of Trump supporters who are easily manipulated to believe that anyone who isn't Trump is bad, and the Paulbots dislike anyone who is considered part of the establishment. Supporters of Ted Cruz hate people who actually have governed. The Democrats hate him because his brother made us safer and overthrew a murderous dictator in Iraq.

People the Jeb because the Bushes 41 and 43 sent young men to die in needless wars whose prime beneficiaries were Bechtel and Halliburton. 

[EliteLX]

Atlas' satirical liberals such as our dear user Leif and such are having play day with Jeb Bush because they are excellent at running already exhausted memes into the ground. It's an attempt at humor, friends.

It's also a political bandwagon to hold grudge to a candidate who they can not name a single beef about other than the fact that he's more politically accomplished than any candidate of theirs found on either side of the aisle. The "low energy" Atlas meme is on the rise due to lack of sound logical attacks around this forum, because who's going to argue logic when I can just ride the l0wenergyLOSERrightguys?lol wave and automatically win an argument by having 35+ other red avatars quote my attack. The logical & argumentative fallacies committed around this forum on a day to day basis is somewhat disturbing for people actually trying to contribute to political discussion.

Some of us truly are surrounded by idiots.

He's not the most politically accomplished candidate of either side of the aisle. He's someone whose benefitted from a good family name (the only reason he even got close to Lawton Chiles), a housing bubble (the reason for Florida's growth), and the hearts of big money donors. If he had none of that, He'd be on the debate stage with George Pataki. I also think his family has done tremendous damage to our country. His economic ideas are dangerous and bad. His social values continue to resonate with those I don't want dog catcher, much less President. But most of all, I don't want someone President who would be completely beholden to the kind of donors that I don't want having control of this country. There is no way he could be independent of their wishes. I have tons of beefs with Jeb Bush, just as much as I do with most of the rest of the Republican field.

The housing bubble was a reality and it boosted the credit rating and GDP growth of the economy, but those just being one of multiple factors such as a employment, lowered taxes and raised incomes and such that came along with general fiscal policy. Jeb was handily responsible for many of these things.

He is not fiscally dangerous. He's one to stand up for fiscal responsibility. He isn't Dub'ya and his social aspects ultimately burn down to the same social right vs left controversy that politics struggles with on a day to day basis in this country. As far as your worries of Jeb's massive big-money support influencing policy, your worry truly is the same as mine, I agree.

I respect your views & differing opinions of mine completely, so I'd never claim them to be invalid. Best wishes.

[dudeabides]

A better question is why wouldn't people hate on Jeb Bush?

Jeb Bush is an accomplished conservative. After eight years of liberal policies that have caused more poverty and stagnant growth, it's time for a new direction. The Obama-Clinton-Sanders policies have been tried; under FDR, LBJ, and now Obama. In each case, the result was some kind of economic hardship. The Great Depression was extended, massive inflation took place in the 1970s, and now we have stagnant growth and record poverty. Contrast that to the growth of the early and mid 1920s, 1980s, and even 1990s - Bill Clinton didn't implement socialist policies, he actually regulated less, cut capital gains taxes, and expanded free trade. The Democratic Party has moved further to the left than the GOP has moved to the right.

This is richly ironic coming from a supporter of Bush-family economic policy.

Jeb Bush, George W. Bush, and George Bush are not identical on economic policy, there is no "Bush-family economic policy." George Bush is a deficit hawk who raised taxes, both George W. Bush and Jeb Bush are supply-siders who reduced taxes dramatically - Jeb Bush's tax plan now also reduces deductions and closes loopholes, George W. Bush increased deductions. Jeb Bush has been critical of the loose-monetary policy that started when George W. Bush was President. George Bush and George W. Bush believe the government has a small role in certain economic activities, Jeb Bush is much more on the side of very limited government. Services were privatized in Florida under Jeb Bush, while George W. Bush signed into law the largest medicare expansion in history and the regulatory state grew. The Bush family does seem united in their support for free trade, but even George W. Bush did support steel tariffs. In terms of economic stimulus, George W. Bush does believe some stimulus is okay during crisis, Jeb Bush has not been supportive of stimulus.