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« on: October 26, 2015, 02:13:10 PM »
« edited: October 26, 2015, 02:19:17 PM by President Johnson »

Assuming The Donald is the Republican nominee (and, despite his current backlash in Iowa, he's still the clear front runner), how many Democratic votes will he get? More than Mitt did back in 2012?
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« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2015, 02:14:49 PM »

Less than Mitt. Probably a very small amount (1.5-2%) if Sanders gets nominated from conservative Dems.
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« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2015, 02:15:58 PM »
« Edited: October 26, 2015, 02:17:55 PM by Sasquatch »

Trump has more appeal than Mittens.

I'd be curious to see how much support Trump would get from the 18-29 year old demographic against Hillary.

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« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2015, 02:17:27 PM »
« Edited: October 26, 2015, 02:43:52 PM by Hydera »

A lot more if it was Trump vs Sanders, compared to Trump vs Clinton.

Some smug people who claim it didnt happen in 2008 and cant happen.  forgot that post-convention. McCain went from trailing to converging on Obama's lead. And his lead only returned due to the Financial crisis in September.

Then again these idiots are the same ones who think that Obama won the 2008 primary by a landslide when they were neck and neck with Hillary Winning more votes than him.
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« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2015, 05:16:19 PM »

Trump has more appeal than Mittens.

I'd be curious to see how much support Trump would get from the 18-29 year old demographic against Hillary.


I would consider voting for Trump if Hillary is the nominee, depending on who he selects as his VP. If he chooses some idiot like Sarah Palin (who he has praised in the past), Ted Cruz, or Bobby Jindal, I will be voting Green or for John McAfee. If he selects John Kasich or George Pataki, they would have my vote.
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« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2015, 05:59:21 PM »

When presented with two Democrats, such as Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton, Democrats will back Clinton and Republicans will stay home. Very few, less than anyone in modern memory.
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« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2015, 08:11:00 AM »

Trump has more appeal than Mittens.

I'd be curious to see how much support Trump would get from the 18-29 year old demographic against Hillary.


I would consider voting for Trump if Hillary is the nominee, depending on who he selects as his VP. If he chooses some idiot like Sarah Palin (who he has praised in the past), Ted Cruz, or Bobby Jindal, I will be voting Green or for John McAfee. If he selects John Kasich or George Pataki, they would have my vote.

Susanna Martinez would be the strongest VP for The Donald. Appealing to women and Lations, whose support he badly needs.
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« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2015, 05:43:49 PM »

I would consider voting for Trump if Hillary is the nominee, depending on who he selects as his VP. If he chooses some idiot like Sarah Palin (who he has praised in the past), Ted Cruz, or Bobby Jindal, I will be voting Green or for John McAfee. If he selects John Kasich or George Pataki, they would have my vote.

Susanna Martinez would be the strongest VP for The Donald. Appealing to women and Lations, whose support he badly needs.
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Plus she was a DA so she has law and order cred.
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« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2015, 06:07:47 PM »

Donald Trump will get a larger share of the white vote than Romney did, and still lose to Clinton/Castro.
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« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2015, 06:14:52 PM »

It depends on who the Democratic nominee is. If it is Clinton, Trump will have my vote, because he genuinely supports campaign finance reform and the TPP.
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« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2015, 06:36:39 PM »

8.
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« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2015, 09:06:42 PM »

Trump has more appeal than Mittens.

I'd be curious to see how much support Trump would get from the 18-29 year old demographic against Hillary.



Donald Trump would do much more poorly with the 18-29 demographic than Mitt. As a millennial, I witness first hand that he is the laughing stock of mainstream social media and young adult outlets. If you think Donald is a joke to the general public.. he is a clown to the 10th power with the younger demographic.
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« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2015, 09:09:07 PM »

Very little.
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« Reply #13 on: October 31, 2015, 09:17:12 PM »

Against Hillary he'd get a some after he demolishes her for being a total warmonger.
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« Reply #14 on: October 31, 2015, 09:45:38 PM »

He is basically a moderate, so he would get a lot of Dem and Dem leaning votes in the GE.
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« Reply #15 on: November 01, 2015, 09:16:00 AM »

However many Democrats are in his family. He is a liberal but is hated by the left anyway.
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« Reply #16 on: November 01, 2015, 09:23:11 AM »

Substantive amounts,  populist far right parties normally take more from the traditionally democratic working class left then the upper middle class/rich right.
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« Reply #17 on: November 01, 2015, 09:27:48 AM »

However many Democrats are in his family. He is a liberal but is hated by the left anyway.

Once again proving that the word 'liberal' doesn't have any meaning.
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« Reply #18 on: November 01, 2015, 09:58:15 AM »

Trump is the one candidate who has the potential to significantly rearrange the electoral map.  There are Democrats in the Northeast who would view Trump as a desirable Republican candidate due to his accomplishments, and there are union voters who may be attracted to his protectionist posture.

So far, small-town and rural voters don't seem to be put off by the City Slicker, but that could change.  The result of that would likely not result in votes for Democrats, but in staying home and, in some cases, third party voting or not choosing a Presidential candidate when voting. 

The Wild Card is "independents" and "moderates" and you get to be one in different ways.  There are folks like me who are truly independent.  There are folks who say they are "independent" and don't register as a member of any one political party (where that applies), but who, in truth, strongly prefer one party over another.  There are "moderates" like me who are socially conservative, but more liberal on economic issues.  There are "moderates" the opposite of me who are conservative on economics but socially liberal (pro-choice, OK with SSM). 

Most moderates and most truly independent voters have been turned off by the GOP and it's nomination process as being a test of Movement Conservative purity.  Most of these voters (though not all) are put off by the Religious Right, and the uber-religiosity of today's GOP.  These are the constituencies where Trump has the POTENTIAL to make significant inroads for the GOP.  Trump is described as some sort of modern Pappy O'Daniel demagogue, but, in reaity, he's a Thoroughly Modern Millie who gives no reason for up to date moderates to consider what he's really about.

The flip side of this is that Trump can be stuck in the mold of the uber-blowhard and turn thoughtful voters off.  Which Trump we'll see depends on Trump's own campaign skills.  For myself, I think Trump's smarter than all of them, and he's proving it.  No one really knows what to do with him, and he's forced his opposition to come to terms with his presence not just in the race, but as an influential presence in the GOP.  The Trump Deniers risk alienating a HUGE bloc of votes that they will need to win in November, 2016.
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« Reply #19 on: November 01, 2015, 10:27:37 AM »

He is basically a moderate, so he would get a lot of Dem and Dem leaning votes in the GE.


Moderate in the same way as Hitler was a moderate, I agree.
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« Reply #20 on: November 01, 2015, 10:36:30 AM »

The flip side of this is that Trump can be stuck in the mold of the uber-blowhard and turn thoughtful voters off.  Which Trump we'll see depends on Trump's own campaign skills.  For myself, I think Trump's smarter than all of them, and he's proving it.  No one really knows what to do with him, and he's forced his opposition to come to terms with his presence not just in the race, but as an influential presence in the GOP.  The Trump Deniers risk alienating a HUGE bloc of votes that they will need to win in November, 2016.

Trump will be taken down - if he's still in the lead at that point - by all of his remaining competitors, with the possible exceptions of Carson and Cruz, in the very last debate before Iowa. It won't be a pretty sight (for Trump at least). They will simply have no other choice. Whether it will be a coordinated effort, or just individual campaigns making their own strategies, is too early to know at this point. Perhaps a little bit of both. If Carson is in the lead at that point, he won't be taken down the same way. They'll go much softer on him. However, they might have less mercy with Carson in the New Hampshire debate, if he happens to win Iowa.
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« Reply #21 on: November 01, 2015, 10:36:38 AM »

In a Clinton-Trump election, a bunch of low-information democrats would vote Trump, but they would likely be outnumbered by the number of moderate (a dying breed, I know) or security-first republicans (the McCain/Graham crowd) who would vote Clinton.
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« Reply #22 on: November 01, 2015, 10:40:15 AM »

A lot more if it was Trump vs Sanders, compared to Trump vs Clinton.

Some smug people who claim it didnt happen in 2008 and cant happen.  forgot that post-convention. McCain went from trailing to converging on Obama's lead. And his lead only returned due to the Financial crisis in September.

Then again these idiots are the same ones who think that Obama won the 2008 primary by a landslide when they were neck and neck with Hillary Winning more votes than him.

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