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« on: October 29, 2015, 01:28:14 PM »

And this lie is so fat and unbelievable that it gets a perfect 10 out of 10 on CNN's Lieometer. Beat that!

http://money.cnn.com/2015/10/29/news/economy/carly-fiorina-wrong-92-percent-jobs-lost-women/index.html
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« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2015, 01:30:31 PM »

Well at least the figure at one point was published, before being withdrawn, as opposed to being made up out of thin air. It still seems hard to believe that it was ever published in the first place, or had the slightest chance of being remotely accurate. 
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« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2015, 01:37:04 PM »

Well at least the figure at one point was published, before being withdrawn, as opposed to being made up out of thin air. It still seems hard to believe that it was ever published in the first place, or had the slightest chance of being remotely accurate. 

Yeah, my jaw literally dropped when she came up with that outrageous claim during the debate. Fiorina has such an urge to be sensationalist - she really wants to be seen as the female version of Cruz - that she can literally get herself to say and claim almost anything.
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« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2015, 01:39:05 PM »

And this lie is so fat and unbelievable that it gets a perfect 10 out of 10 on CNN's Lieometer. Beat that!

http://money.cnn.com/2015/10/29/news/economy/carly-fiorina-wrong-92-percent-jobs-lost-women/index.html
Well the lies and untruths coming out of Hillary's mouth everyday from Benghazi to the email situation actually surpasses anything you imagine Carly could or might fib about. But maybe we should have a special house committee to investigate Carly, because seriously she did a terrible thing, she "lied', funny how your definition of lying changes when it's not a Democrat who is telling the porky. It's not serious and you can't prove Carly lied. She just misquoted or things were out of context.
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« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2015, 01:41:55 PM »

And this lie is so fat and unbelievable that it gets a perfect 10 out of 10 on CNN's Lieometer. Beat that!

http://money.cnn.com/2015/10/29/news/economy/carly-fiorina-wrong-92-percent-jobs-lost-women/index.html
Well the lies and untruths coming out of Hillary's mouth everyday from Benghazi to the email situation actually surpasses anything you imagine Carly could or might fib about. But maybe we should have a special house committee to investigate Carly, because seriously she did a terrible thing, she "lied', funny how your definition of lying changes when it's not a Democrat who is telling the porky. It's not serious and you can't prove Carly lied. She just misquoted or things were out of context.

She's been a CEO of one of the world's most prestigious companies. If she can't even get her basic facts straight, then there's no wonder why she got fired from her position. When your best excuse is starting to talk about other people, then you know you're in serious trouble and on thin ice.
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« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2015, 02:14:42 PM »

Well the lies and untruths coming out of Hillary's mouth everyday from Benghazi to the email situation actually surpasses anything you imagine Carly could or might fib about. But maybe we should have a special house committee to investigate Carly, because seriously she did a terrible thing, she "lied', funny how your definition of lying changes when it's not a Democrat who is telling the porky. It's not serious and you can't prove Carly lied. She just misquoted or things were out of context.

She's been a CEO of one of the world's most prestigious companies. If she can't even get her basic facts straight, then there's no wonder why she got fired from her position. When your best excuse is starting to talk about other people, then you know you're in serious trouble and on thin ice.

Yes, well we're all agreed: Carly's lies should preclude her from being president, and Hillary's lies should preclude her from being president. I'm so glad we got that out of the way; now we can focus on the issues.
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« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2015, 02:35:59 PM »

And this lie is so fat and unbelievable that it gets a perfect 10 out of 10 on CNN's Lieometer. Beat that!

http://money.cnn.com/2015/10/29/news/economy/carly-fiorina-wrong-92-percent-jobs-lost-women/index.html
Well the lies and untruths coming out of Hillary's mouth everyday from Benghazi to the email situation actually surpasses anything you imagine Carly could or might fib about. But maybe we should have a special house committee to investigate Carly, because seriously she did a terrible thing, she "lied', funny how your definition of lying changes when it's not a Democrat who is telling the porky. It's not serious and you can't prove Carly lied. She just misquoted or things were out of context.

She's been a CEO of one of the world's most prestigious companies. If she can't even get her basic facts straight, then there's no wonder why she got fired from her position. When your best excuse is starting to talk about other people, then you know you're in serious trouble and on thin ice.
Eric82oslo,  you are so right and Hillary is a taskmaster at talking about people and using the sexist wedge,  like she did with Bernie Sanders, she had nothing to say, apart from reminding everyone in the room, that she was a WOMAN! ...We got the memo Hillary,  but nothing about what her plans are, If she wins. Just whining and twisting the truth.
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« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2015, 02:38:38 PM »

Carly Fiorina lies shamelessly and without care. I'm truly amazed by her abilities on that front.
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« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2015, 02:51:06 PM »

Carly Fiorina lies shamelessly and without care. I'm truly amazed by her abilities on that front.

Par for the course for a member of the executive class.
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« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2015, 08:05:10 PM »

It's not just CNN but MSNBC, Boston Globe, Washington Post, USA Today and others who have all said her numbers are wrong. But the sad thing is that reality doesn't seem to matter anymore.

Here is what Fiorina said when confronted with the facts and how it was said to be false by the Washington Post...
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/fiorina-fires-back-at-cnn-host-i-cant-believe-were-having-this-conversation/
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She then started throwing out more dubious statistics and then said...
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The topic then switched to Planned Parenthood where she started making stuff up about them.



We are simply living in a post-fact world when it comes to these candidates and it doesn't matter because the GOP has convinced their voters that the media are all liars so you can't trust anything they say.
 
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« Reply #10 on: October 30, 2015, 08:18:04 AM »
« Edited: October 30, 2015, 08:21:29 AM by eric82oslo »

Noone cares about liars which is interesting. I should probably start some sort of Liars' Club (trademarked) or something. Smiley

Bytheway, I greatly appreciate your work as always Likely Voter. Smiley Your work is only followed in prestige by MrMorden. Whatever anyone else's says, you're the only two voices that actually counts, as anyone sound know (but unfortunately most people haven't been around as long as I have).
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« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2015, 04:01:27 PM »

Now Fiorina admits she lied, then attacks the media for exposing her lie

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http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/carly-fiorina-corrects-92-percent
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« Reply #12 on: November 01, 2015, 04:06:42 PM »

Now Fiorina admits she lied, then attacks the media for exposing her lie

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http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/carly-fiorina-corrects-92-percent

That makes her even worse in my book.
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« Reply #13 on: November 01, 2015, 04:07:27 PM »

It's true....from a certain point of view..
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« Reply #14 on: November 01, 2015, 05:37:58 PM »

Now Fiorina admits she lied, then attacks the media for exposing her lie

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http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/carly-fiorina-corrects-92-percent
It's not necessarily a lie if she used outdated information.

Good on her for admitting her error.

If only every politician caught in such a manner did the same thing.
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« Reply #15 on: November 01, 2015, 05:43:14 PM »

She only admitted it after it became ridiculous (with the sheer number of fact checkers calling her out) and she knew ABC's Radditz wouldn't let her get away with what she did on CNN a few days before, as in just pretend that the media was lying and she was right.

The problem is that Fiorina has built up a media narrative that she is a liar and exaggerator, much more than her fellow candidates. And the problem with this is that in between the debates she ends up getting more negative press than positive. Perhaps this is media bias, but she has been very bad at controlling her message which is why she gets debate bumps then falls, unlike Carson and Trump who took a hit after the last debate and then turned it around.
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« Reply #16 on: November 01, 2015, 07:33:54 PM »

What was in fact the percentage of women who lost their jobs at the end of Obama's first term? With but 10 months to go, or whatever it was, the figure was 92%. How much did it go down? If it dropped like a rock, then Carly was gilding the lily, and doing it ham handedly. She could have used the right date when using the 92% number. But if the number was 77% at the end of the term, her point sort of stands does it not? If it rather miraculously dropped to close to 50%, then she just porked the pouch. But the interviewer was hopelessly incompetent in sorting this all out, and Carly thus had a possible way to wiggle out of it, without too much damage - for the moment.
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« Reply #17 on: November 02, 2015, 02:42:59 AM »

Carly Fiorina lies shamelessly and without care. I'm truly amazed by her abilities on that front.
Well maybe Republicans need at least one liar on the ticket who can counteract Hillary's lies.
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« Reply #18 on: November 02, 2015, 02:55:49 AM »

Why'd she limit the claim to 92%? Why not 192%?
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« Reply #19 on: November 02, 2015, 03:44:10 AM »

Carly Fiorina lies shamelessly and without care. I'm truly amazed by her abilities on that front.
Well maybe Republicans need at least one liar on the ticket who can counteract Hillary's lies.

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« Reply #20 on: November 02, 2015, 08:27:01 AM »

Noone cares about liars which is interesting. I should probably start some sort of Liars' Club (trademarked) or something. Smiley

Perhaps someone should compile a running tally of the lies spoken by both Carly Fiorina and Hillary Clinton. But of course Eric is correct: nobody cares about liars or their lies, especially when that nobody is a Hillary supporter...
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