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« on: October 06, 2015, 05:13:51 PM »

If the electoral college is abolished, I am sure the map would change and therefore be more interesting. I think that the popular vote of the states would still tend to coincide with the nonexistent electoral votes. In other words, if you created a hypothetical map the popular vote winner would win the nonexistent electoral votes about as often as s/he does now.
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« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2015, 05:16:08 PM »

The big difference would be where candidates campaign. I'd imagine that the totals would change the most in "safe Democratic" states where both candidates would have incentive to campaign and get as many votes as possible in the large metropolitan areas. They would be bluer in Democratic years than they are now, and redder in Republican ones.

Nobody would pay much attention to Iowa or New Hampshire anymore.
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« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2015, 05:17:55 PM »

The big difference would be where candidates campaign. I'd imagine that the totals would change the most in "safe Democratic" states where both candidates would have incentive to campaign and get as many votes as possible in the large metropolitan areas. They would be bluer in Democratic years than they are now, and redder in Republican ones.

Nobody would pay much attention to Iowa or New Hampshire anymore.
What about Texas? The Democrats might not be able to win or even do any better, but they would certainly have to campaign there.
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« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2015, 05:23:35 PM »

The big difference would be where candidates campaign. I'd imagine that the totals would change the most in "safe Democratic" states where both candidates would have incentive to campaign and get as many votes as possible in the large metropolitan areas. They would be bluer in Democratic years than they are now, and redder in Republican ones.

Nobody would pay much attention to Iowa or New Hampshire anymore.
What about Texas? The Democrats might not be able to win or even do any better, but they would certainly have to campaign there.

Yes, Democrats would have to campaign in Texas, mostly (I'd imagine) in Dallas and Houston.
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« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2015, 07:26:32 AM »

The Democrats would focus more on increasing turnout in urban areas and the Republicans would focus on increasing turnout in rural and suburban areas in the South and parts of the Midwest.
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« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2015, 12:55:31 PM »

As for actual electoral maps, we'd see more weighted maps and county maps would be more important than state maps.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6a/2008CartogramElection.jpg
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« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2015, 12:58:39 PM »

The final weeks of the campaign would be marked by the Democratic nominee poking his head around Chicago's South Side and inner-city Philadelphia, while the Republican nominee would be going on bus-tours of exurban Atlanta and Houston. 
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« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2015, 11:17:21 AM »



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« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2015, 12:28:43 AM »

Presuming it gets abolished by a President Humphrey with a POD in 1966 or so, I predict 1976 is the first re-aligning position:

OTL: 321 - 217

1969-1973: Vice President Hubert Humphrey(D-MN)/Sen. Ed Muskie(D-ME)
1973-1977: Gov. Ronald Reagan(R-CA)/Sen. Bob Dole(R-KS)

In 1976, the tickets are:

Minority Leader Gerald Ford(R-MI)/Sen. Mark Hatfield(R-OR): 51.9%
Rep. Morris Udall(D-AZ)/Gov. Jimmy Carter(D-GA): 47.6%

I predict that the Presidencies goes something like this:
1977-1985: Gerald Ford(R-MI)/Mark Hatfield(R-OR)
1985-1993: Sen. James Carter(D-GA)/Sen. Bill Bradley(D-NJ)
1993-2001: Sen. Paul Tsongas(R-MA)/Rep. John Kasich(R-OH)
2001-2005: Gov. Hubert "Skip" Humphrey(D-MN)/Sen. Jack Carter(D-NV)
2005-2013: Gov. Howard Dean(R-VT)/Sen. Condoleeza Rice(R-CA)
2013-PRES: Sen. Jason Carter(D-GA)/Rep. Kurt Schrader(D-OR)
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« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2015, 01:03:34 PM »

Presuming it gets abolished by a President Humphrey with a POD in 1966 or so, I predict 1976 is the first re-aligning position:

OTL: 321 - 217

1969-1973: Vice President Hubert Humphrey(D-MN)/Sen. Ed Muskie(D-ME)
1973-1977: Gov. Ronald Reagan(R-CA)/Sen. Bob Dole(R-KS)

In 1976, the tickets are:

Minority Leader Gerald Ford(R-MI)/Sen. Mark Hatfield(R-OR): 51.9%
Rep. Morris Udall(D-AZ)/Gov. Jimmy Carter(D-GA): 47.6%

I predict that the Presidencies goes something like this:
1977-1985: Gerald Ford(R-MI)/Mark Hatfield(R-OR)
1985-1993: Sen. James Carter(D-GA)/Sen. Bill Bradley(D-NJ)
1993-2001: Sen. Paul Tsongas(R-MA)/Rep. John Kasich(R-OH)
2001-2005: Gov. Hubert "Skip" Humphrey(D-MN)/Sen. Jack Carter(D-NV)
2005-2013: Gov. Howard Dean(R-VT)/Sen. Condoleeza Rice(R-CA)
2013-PRES: Sen. Jason Carter(D-GA)/Rep. Kurt Schrader(D-OR)


Jason Carter?Huh you think American will elect a 36 year old to be President in 2012?
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