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« on: May 10, 2005, 04:49:56 PM »

http://www.cato.org/research/articles/boaz-050425.html

"An up-or-down vote, that is all we ask," said Sen. Tom Daschle in 1999. "Our institutional integrity requires an up-or-down vote," said Sen. Dianne Feinstein the same year. "If our Republican colleagues don't like them, vote against them. But give them a vote," said Sen. Edward M. Kennedy in 1998.

Looks like Ted Kennedy and Dianne Feinstein will be voting with the Republicans on the nuclear option, eh?
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« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2005, 07:06:49 PM »

By the same right the Republicans were all in favor of it at that time but now are screaming bloody murder about their own tactics being used against them.  Hmmm ....
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« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2005, 07:10:54 PM »

Where in those quotes does it indicate that those senators want to abolish the filibuster?  They certainly wanted the Republicans to stop filibustering their candidates, which is expected, but that's not the same thing as advocating a 'nuclear option.'

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« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2005, 07:30:50 PM »

Not only this, but the Democrats weren't the majority power in 1999, so it's not as if Clinton being President has much to do with it.
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« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2005, 08:14:14 PM »

Nowhere in that article, but the LP has a similar headline making the claim.
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« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2005, 08:47:50 PM »

I think we've already established that Congress is controlled by morons and hypocrites.
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« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2005, 09:19:32 PM »


In other words, politicians. Tongue
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« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2005, 10:40:34 PM »

Yep!
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« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2005, 10:42:51 PM »


I tend to the think of the Dems in congress as the morons and the reps as the hypocrites.  But that could just be me.
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« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2005, 10:49:50 PM »

Looks like Ted Kennedy and Dianne Feinstein will be voting with the Republicans on the nuclear option, eh?

Given that the Republicans were strongly in favor of the filibuster when it was in their own interest to do so, this says absolutely nothing about Democrats to me and only reaffirms in my mind the fact that politicians on the whole care nothing about what is "right" and only about what will benefit them the most.
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« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2005, 12:55:26 AM »


I tend to the think of the Dems in congress as the morons and the reps as the hypocrites.  But that could just be me.

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« Reply #11 on: May 11, 2005, 10:27:17 PM »

Now Reid is talking like he's preserving the filibuster so that Bush can't get a Clarance Thomas in there instead of an Anthony Kennedy.

I have no problem with filibustering religious hacks, but if they start slamming originalists, I say nuke the bastards, and I don't care what they do to retaliate.
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« Reply #12 on: May 11, 2005, 10:29:55 PM »

I have no problem with filibustering religious hacks, but if they start slamming originalists, I say nuke the bastards, and I don't care what they do to retaliate.

But then if more religious hacks get put up for nomination, they'll get confirmed too.
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« Reply #13 on: May 11, 2005, 10:33:28 PM »

I have no problem with filibustering religious hacks, but if they start slamming originalists, I say nuke the bastards, and I don't care what they do to retaliate.

But then if more religious hacks get put up for nomination, they'll get confirmed too.

Well, that's what happens when you  around too much. It's not as if their Supreme Court justices are moderates. Hell, they're reading out of international texts and writing every little right they want into that "living, breathing" Constitution of ours—a document that resembles, increasingly, a dead Constitution.
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« Reply #14 on: May 11, 2005, 10:36:28 PM »

Now Reid is talking like he's preserving the filibuster so that Bush can't get a Clarance Thomas in there instead of an Anthony Kennedy.

I have no problem with filibustering religious hacks, but if they start slamming originalists, I say nuke the bastards, and I don't care what they do to retaliate.

You don't like filibusting "originalists"?  Then perhaps the GOP shouldn't have intentionally held open the seat on the DC 5th Circuit court by filibusting not 1, not 2, BUT 3 Clinton nominees for that seat.

On this judges issue the GOP can go get bent!
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« Reply #15 on: May 11, 2005, 10:42:18 PM »

I don't care what you consider "fair." The point is we have the power to nuke them, and we should.
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