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TheElectoralBoobyPrize
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« on: August 29, 2015, 01:07:24 PM »

if Hurricane Sandy hadn't happened? (And no, don't say Romney would have won...at best, maybe he would've carried Florida)

His embrace of Obama is mainly what is hurting him with conservatives.
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« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2015, 01:12:59 PM »

Bridgegate is what killed Christie in the polls. He was leading the polls for most of 2013 and was basically considered a shoe in for the nomination. Also, I'd say Christie's 'winning is more important than principle' rhetoric is what always has hurt him with conservatives, not some hug.
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« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2015, 01:12:59 PM »

Hurricane Sandy is maybe worth -5 percentage points in the primary, but subject to regional variation. In New York and New Jersey, Sandy almost definitely improves Christie's standing while elsewhere it hurts it (barring the possibility Christie is found to have misappropriated relief funds, which would hurt him dramatically). That being said, Bridgegate, whether legitimately or not, is probably costing Christie closer to 15 percentage points. All in all, if Sandy had never happened, he'd probably be around the 8% mark.
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« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2015, 01:40:08 PM »

Chris Christie's problem isn't that: It's the fact that the more voters see him, the less they like him. It's really that simple, his attitude is very offputting, and not in the way that endears him to Republican voters.
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« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2015, 02:51:36 PM »

Chris Christie's problem isn't that: It's the fact that the more voters see him, the less they like him. It's really that simple, his attitude is very offputting, and not in the way that endears him to Republican voters.

It works for Trump though.
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« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2015, 03:01:09 PM »

Chris Christie's problem isn't that: It's the fact that the more voters see him, the less they like him. It's really that simple, his attitude is very offputting, and not in the way that endears him to Republican voters.

It works for Trump though.

It works for Trump because he's not a politician.  It wouldn't work for Trump if he were actually elected to office.
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« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2015, 04:27:59 PM »

Chris Christie's problem isn't that: It's the fact that the more voters see him, the less they like him. It's really that simple, his attitude is very offputting, and not in the way that endears him to Republican voters.

It works for Trump though.

The problem is they don't perceive Christie as being on their side.
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« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2015, 04:39:16 PM »

I thought Chris Christie killed his chances with his awful convention speech?
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« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2015, 05:45:40 PM »

Chris Christie's problem isn't that: It's the fact that the more voters see him, the less they like him. It's really that simple, his attitude is very offputting, and not in the way that endears him to Republican voters.

It works for Trump though.

The problem is they don't perceive Christie as being on their side.

This.

Christie is the blowhard who offends, rather than entertains.
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« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2015, 06:22:27 PM »

Hurricane Sandy is maybe worth -5 percentage points in the primary, but subject to regional variation. In New York and New Jersey, Sandy almost definitely improves Christie's standing while elsewhere it hurts it (barring the possibility Christie is found to have misappropriated relief funds, which would hurt him dramatically). That being said, Bridgegate, whether legitimately or not, is probably costing Christie closer to 15 percentage points. All in all, if Sandy had never happened, he'd probably be around the 8% mark
Did it hurt or help him in New Hampshire, I wonder?
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« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2015, 10:28:23 PM »

Bridgegate might've undermined the argument that he's more "electable" than other Republicans, but I think the average Republican primary voter is more turned off by his Obama love.
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« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2015, 10:52:06 PM »

I could've sworn I posted in this topic earlier...

Anyway, he probably would be at least a few points up. If Christie-mentum was halted by Sandy but otherwise would have kept going, I suppose he could even be a front-runner.
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« Reply #12 on: August 31, 2015, 01:28:15 AM »

Chris Christie's problem isn't that: It's the fact that the more voters see him, the less they like him. It's really that simple, his attitude is very offputting, and not in the way that endears him to Republican voters.
It works for Trump though.
The problem is they don't perceive Christie as being on their side.
This.

Christie is the blowhard who offends, rather than entertains.

That's exactly it. Trump knows reality TV, and that's how he's running his campaign. People are entertained by him. He's likeable in the same way TV characters with unsavory traits are likeable. Christie's unlikeable in the same way politicians with unsavory traits are unlikeable.
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« Reply #13 on: August 31, 2015, 08:19:39 AM »

I could've sworn I posted in this topic earlier...

Anyway, he probably would be at least a few points up. If Christie-mentum was halted by Sandy but otherwise would have kept going, I suppose he could even be a front-runner.

I disagree- Christie probably wouldn't have won reelection in NJ without sandy, therefore making him even less of a contender. 
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« Reply #14 on: August 31, 2015, 09:36:56 AM »

I could've sworn I posted in this topic earlier...

Anyway, he probably would be at least a few points up. If Christie-mentum was halted by Sandy but otherwise would have kept going, I suppose he could even be a front-runner.

I disagree- Christie probably wouldn't have won reelection in NJ without sandy, therefore making him even less of a contender. 

It definitely would have shaved some points off his victory, but I bet he would've won. He was popular before Sandy.
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« Reply #15 on: August 31, 2015, 09:55:31 PM »

if Hurricane Sandy hadn't happened? (And no, don't say Romney would have won...at best, maybe he would've carried Florida)

His embrace of Obama is mainly what is hurting him with conservatives.

Pretty low still. Close to 80% of his unfavorables are driven by the neverending Bridgegate scandal in my opinion. Bridgegate was far, far worse for Christie than e-mailgate has been for Hillary. Simply because everything about Bridgegate was so extremely cruel (even if Christie wasn't involved personally). So cruel in fact that even Trump would barely have sufficient imagination to stage something equally cruel. Having said that, deporting 11 million law-abiding people are of course far more cruel in every sense. However, I'm 98% sure that it was Jeff Sessions who came up with that ridiculous, dehumanizing idea. If it was Trump, I will of course hate him even more (if that is even humanly possible lol).
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« Reply #16 on: August 31, 2015, 10:35:19 PM »

Bridgegate is what killed Christie in the polls. He was leading the polls for most of 2013 and was basically considered a shoe in for the nomination. Also, I'd say Christie's 'winning is more important than principle' rhetoric is what always has hurt him with conservatives, not some hug.


Because conservatives care more about integrity than liberals do.
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« Reply #17 on: August 31, 2015, 10:48:16 PM »

I could've sworn I posted in this topic earlier...

Anyway, he probably would be at least a few points up. If Christie-mentum was halted by Sandy but otherwise would have kept going, I suppose he could even be a front-runner.

I disagree- Christie probably wouldn't have won reelection in NJ without sandy, therefore making him even less of a contender. 

It definitely would have shaved some points off his victory, but I bet he would've won. He was popular before Sandy.

He was popular after Sandy as well. He was above 20% once Bridgegate hit. Basically he was at the same level then as Trump is now.
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