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« Reply #50 on: August 05, 2015, 11:45:07 PM »

If Newsom had served on a federal level (Cabinet or House of Reps), he could be plausible. But without that (and barring him becoming governor before the election), he is a featherweight contender.

Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, Ronald Reagan, Spiro Agnew, Michael Dukakis, and Howard Dean had never served at the federal level. Hence why they never got close to being President... Oh, wait.
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« Reply #51 on: August 05, 2015, 11:51:57 PM »

If Newsom had served on a federal level (Cabinet or House of Reps), he could be plausible. But without that (and barring him becoming governor before the election), he is a featherweight contender.

Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, Ronald Reagan, Spiro Agnew, Michael Dukakis, and Howard Dean had never served at the federal level. Hence why they never got close to being President... Oh, wait.

Note the bolded text. All of the names that you mentioned served as governor. Newsom hasn't. Lieutenant Governor of California has been described as "get up, read the paper, see if the governor is dead, if not, go back to sleep." Sure, he serves on a few committees, but by and large, there isn't much for him to do, unlike the Lt. Gov. of Texas.
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« Reply #52 on: August 06, 2015, 01:26:50 AM »

If Newsom had served on a federal level (Cabinet or House of Reps), he could be plausible. But without that (and barring him becoming governor before the election), he is a featherweight contender.

Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, Ronald Reagan, Spiro Agnew, Michael Dukakis, and Howard Dean had never served at the federal level. Hence why they never got close to being President... Oh, wait.

Note the bolded text. All of the names that you mentioned served as governor. Newsom hasn't. Lieutenant Governor of California has been described as "get up, read the paper, see if the governor is dead, if not, go back to sleep." Sure, he serves on a few committees, but by and large, there isn't much for him to do, unlike the Lt. Gov. of Texas.

He governs the State Senate, which is what the Vice President does.

That said, he'd be a controversial choice, but a risky game-changer for Hillary.
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« Reply #53 on: August 06, 2015, 02:32:28 AM »

Well Newsom is simply unqualified, presiding over a senate is hardly a qualification to serve as Vice President. Not only does he have no foreign policy experience, he's got personal baggage, he doesn't add anything to the Ticket and like Booker he seems like someone who was seen as a future democratic President about 8 years ago
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« Reply #54 on: August 06, 2015, 02:45:51 AM »

He governs the State Senate, which is what the Vice President does.


How nice to drop by our forum governor Palin.
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« Reply #55 on: August 06, 2015, 03:24:47 AM »

I like the idea of Xavier Beccera or Brian Schatz as VP choices. Either of the Washingtonian senators (or the gov) could also work. If Maggie Hassan doesn't run for Senate, I could see her as an unorthodox choice. Most of the Senators are off-limits though, since many of them have Republican Governors.

Hmm.. I just had a really silly idea: what about Governor Alejandro Padilla of Puerto Rico? He would add absolutely nothing and apparently doesn't even speak English well, but technically as a Governor he's more viable than a Representative.
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« Reply #56 on: August 06, 2015, 04:41:20 AM »

It could always be some random pick out of nowhere like Gary Locke.
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« Reply #57 on: August 06, 2015, 07:43:03 AM »

Hillary's only option now is not who she will or not chose as her running mate, but how she addresses the triple threat confronting her vis a vi....possible entry of Joe Biden into contest,  how she prevents it, the Bernie Sanders problem (he is polling at 36% to 42% for Hillary & 5% for Biden in New Hampshire.  Between them the Biden - Sanders vote % represents 41%. That idea of Hillary's invincibility is pretty much premature if not debunked). Be very interested to read the responses from the pro Hillary acolytes or trolls☺The second threat, a possible FBI intervention regarding Hillary's server. If Petraeus could be prosecuted over a lesser charge involving diaries, then why aren't the feds going after Hillary?  Oh I forgot, she's a presidential candidate and the Justice Department - an arm of the DNC & the FBI don't want to diss a potential future President,  so much for equal justice for all, seems to me, despite all the evidence mounting up; the Justice Department still won't act, so much for the spirit of Robert Kennedy,  it's now the age of the banana Republic,  in the age of Obama and the quid pro quo😕
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« Reply #58 on: August 06, 2015, 10:26:42 AM »

San Francisco is actually the fourth largest city in California (and it's smaller than San Antonio).

Anyway, Free Bird is wrong that Kaine and Warner are Hillary's only options. I agree that she'll most likely choose a Senator (Democrats always do) but not necessarily one from a swing state. Jeff Merkley, Brian Schatz, Amy Klobuchar, Chris Coons, and Chris Murphy, to name a few, are also options.
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« Reply #59 on: August 06, 2015, 10:27:32 AM »

It could always be some random pick out of nowhere like Gary Locke.

He would be a solid pick.

And once again, people don't understand picking a Vice President.
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« Reply #60 on: August 06, 2015, 05:51:44 PM »

It could always be some random pick out of nowhere like Gary Locke.
He would be a solid pick.

And once again, people don't understand picking a Vice President.

Is that a shot at me or elsewhere?

Because I should point out I was looking for a Former Lieutenant Governor who is either now a Governor or Senator, but I couldn't find one. Newsom has executive experience and knows how to preside over a Senate.

That said, I think Heinrich would also be a good choice.
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« Reply #61 on: August 06, 2015, 06:27:36 PM »

It could always be some random pick out of nowhere like Gary Locke.
He would be a solid pick.

And once again, people don't understand picking a Vice President.

Is that a shot at me or elsewhere?

Because I should point out I was looking for a Former Lieutenant Governor who is either now a Governor or Senator, but I couldn't find one. Newsom has executive experience and knows how to preside over a Senate.

That said, I think Heinrich would also be a good choice.

Any Dem Senator who has a Republican Governor of their state (like Heinrich) is a terrible idea for the Dems, because they need all the Senators they can get, and a Senator VP in a GOP state allows the Governor to appoint a GOP senator, even for just a couple of years. Similarly, if there were any states where there was a Dem Governor but a GOP Lt Governor, it'd be a bad idea to pick that Governor for VP.

As for Newsom, I don't think Lt Gov is prestigious enough, even if it is California. It's a really boring job, and I don't think there's been many cases where Newsom has had to be President of the State Senate anyway.

(Side note, sup Kingpoleon, this is of course Zioneer from the other forum).
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