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Question: How do you feel about Obama giving up on 'public option'?
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He should keep it.		  
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He did the right thing to save health care reform.		  
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It was a terrible idea.		  
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #25 on: August 16, 2009, 05:03:49 PM »
Quote from: Mint on August 16, 2009, 04:50:12 PM
But at this point I'm not sure if we should take that at face value. What he's said is that he's 'ready' to abandon it, which could really just mean 'I know it's politically toxic/controversial now and I'm really just stalling for time while congress makes semantic changes to the bill but keeps the overall structure the same.'

Hoping you're right. Tongue
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« Reply #26 on: August 16, 2009, 05:07:26 PM »
Quote from: Antonio V on August 16, 2009, 05:03:49 PM
Quote from: Mint on August 16, 2009, 04:50:12 PM
But at this point I'm not sure if we should take that at face value. What he's said is that he's 'ready' to abandon it, which could really just mean 'I know it's politically toxic/controversial now and I'm really just stalling for time while congress makes semantic changes to the bill but keeps the overall structure the same.'

Hoping you're right. Tongue

You do see my point though, right?
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« Reply #27 on: August 16, 2009, 05:10:17 PM »
Quote from: Mint on August 16, 2009, 05:07:26 PM
Quote from: Antonio V on August 16, 2009, 05:03:49 PM
Quote from: Mint on August 16, 2009, 04:50:12 PM
But at this point I'm not sure if we should take that at face value. What he's said is that he's 'ready' to abandon it, which could really just mean 'I know it's politically toxic/controversial now and I'm really just stalling for time while congress makes semantic changes to the bill but keeps the overall structure the same.'

Hoping you're right. Tongue

You do see my point though, right?

I understood you hope being wrong. Tongue Tongue Tongue
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« Reply #28 on: August 16, 2009, 05:31:34 PM »
He should have kept it.

More to the point, he should have called for single-payer health care from the very beginning, and negotiated downward until coming up with a bill roughly approximating what he actually campaigned on in real-life. 
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« Reply #29 on: August 18, 2009, 09:05:34 AM »
Quote from: opebo on August 16, 2009, 02:38:33 PM
The only worthwhile part of the bill as I understand it.  We need a 'wedge' - a public payer that can over the ensuing decades slowly squeeze out the mafia.  Without that, we're still just giving money to the same mafia.

What Opebo said.
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« Reply #30 on: August 18, 2009, 10:27:11 AM »
Quote from: Hamilton on August 16, 2009, 03:21:44 PM
Why don't people who can't afford it prioritize better or find a way to afford it? (most people that 'can't afford it' have TVs, cell phones, iPods, etc. numerous luxuries they choose to buy over healthcare, even a car)

You make no sense, Ham - a  TV ($100), a cell phone ($100), and IPod (no idea, what is it?), and a car ($15,000) altogether cost less than one typical operation or a years worth of medicines for many diseases.  That cheap consumer junk is just that - cheap.  It is so cheap it is just plain silly to compare it to health care.
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« Reply #31 on: August 18, 2009, 11:47:00 PM »
I find it hilarious.
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« Reply #32 on: August 19, 2009, 08:28:05 AM »
I think Obama needs to take a lesson from W.........at 29% approval ratings, W was a pile driver and under the threat of veto and threatening to blame them for everything to the American people , he got whatever he wanted from the even weaker congress.   

Time to man up, and lead.
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