Pawlenty vs Hillary...

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VPs don't count, since very few people make the choice based on who the second banana is.

Nixon may have been a resident of NY at the time, but he was still a Californian.  I'm living in AR at the moment, but I still consider myself a TN.

So do you count the Bushes as being from CT? It makes it hard to determine where Nixon, Reagan, the Bushes, Eisenhower, Wilson, the Harrison of 1840, and any other (I know there are others) Presidents that had their state of residence when elected not be their birth state, were from.

[A18]

Home is where the heart is. Go with the state of primary association.

Reagan was clearly from California, not Illinois; GWB is clearly from Texas, not Connecticut; GHWB I'm not sure about.

[Notre Dame rules!]

Bush 41 was clearly a New Englander, even though he represented Texas.  Hell, he spent all of his free time in Maine.

Bush 43, on the other hand, spends all of his free time back in Texas.  Clearly, he thinks and acts like a Texan.

[No more McShame]

Not sure why Pawlenty has gotten that much talk.  From what I understand he only won because of the split Democratic vote (he got something like 44% of the vote) and is not all that popular in Minnesota

44% in a three way race is still better than Clinton did in '92, also a three way race.

Still, I have to agree, I'm not sure what the Pawlenty buzz is all about.


Other than 2000, when is the last time that a favorite son lost his home state? 

McGovern lost South Dakota in 1972.  Nixon doesn't work since he was never elected to office from New York and VP candidates often lose their home state... Edwards in 2004, Bentsen in 1988, Ferrarro in 1984, Shriver in 1972 since 1968.

[Notre Dame rules!]

Not sure why Pawlenty has gotten that much talk.  From what I understand he only won because of the split Democratic vote (he got something like 44% of the vote) and is not all that popular in Minnesota

44% in a three way race is still better than Clinton did in '92, also a three way race.

Still, I have to agree, I'm not sure what the Pawlenty buzz is all about.


Other than 2000, when is the last time that a favorite son lost his home state? 

McGovern lost South Dakota in 1972.  Nixon doesn't work since he was never elected to office from New York and VP candidates often lose their home state... Edwards in 2004, Bentsen in 1988, Ferrarro in 1984, Shriver in 1972 since 1968.

Bentson both won and lost Texas back in '88.  He lost as Dukakis' VP, but won re-election to the Senate that same year.

[dazzleman]

Voters would choose Tim Pawlenty, the moderate from the midwest,  over Hillary Clinton, the ultra liberal from the northeast

I agree.  Hillary would beat a Gingrich or someone like that, but I can't see her beating a relatively moderate midwesterner.  Her home state will be a big liability, as will her shrill tone and ultra-liberal views on most issues, however well she does masking them over the next few years.

[riceowl]

OK so...

How do we get Pawlenty's name out there. Start the buzz.  Get the train moving?

[Reaganfan]

Yes...and tell the guys he has a good looking wife!

[jacob_101]

Not sure why Pawlenty has gotten that much talk.  From what I understand he only won because of the split Democratic vote (he got something like 44% of the vote) and is not all that popular in Minnesota

Yes, Pawlenty won only 44% of the vote.  I believe the Democrat, Roger Moe got 37%.  If you assume Pawlenty only wins 1/3 of the independent vote(which I think we can agree is underestimating the number) he wins the election.

I live up here and about a month ago, Pawlenty's approval rating was 56%.  I will try to find the source for you all.  He is definitely popular enough to win re-election.  I suppose his win(if he wins) and the margin by which he wins will determine his strength as a Presidential nominee.

He already is well spoken and a good looking, younger guy and he doesn't have that evangelical Christian thing that Bush has.  He will do better in the North than Bush.

[Joe Republic]

Yes...and tell the guys he has a good looking wife!

Naso's priorities in a candidate shine through again.