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« on: April 11, 2005, 04:39:39 PM »

What are the chances? What would a election map look like?
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« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2005, 04:45:34 PM »

Warner/Clark could be a very good ticket. I like both of them.
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« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2005, 04:46:44 PM »
« Edited: April 11, 2005, 04:48:58 PM by jfern »

Somewhat optimistic map.

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« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2005, 04:58:12 PM »

Opebo's map is about right for states that would be in play.  Minus, Colorado and Arkansas (I question Clarks popularity there).  Plus, West Virginia.
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« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2005, 05:00:00 PM »

Opebo's map is about right for states that would be in play.  Minus, Colorado and Arkansas (I question Clarks popularity there).  Plus, West Virginia.

Ummm, I'm not Opebo.
I was basing it a lot on the 2004 results. If the Democrat wins the popular vote by a few points, they should take Colorado. Arkansas seems like it really supports a "favorite son".
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« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2005, 05:25:36 PM »

um no. Clark is a huge liability and a) Warner won't win the nomination and b) his electoral viability is not a sure thing.
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« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2005, 12:03:40 PM »

I`m beginning to have huge doubts about clark.

maybe he should become a senator or run for governor of Arkansas.
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« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2005, 09:09:08 PM »

A Clark candidacy will never fly.

I don't believe he has a great grasp of the issues.

Just because he was at one time NATO commander does not make him an Eisenhower.  Eisenhower had a tremendous appeal in post WWII America.  Clark in no way has an appeal anywhere near that of Eisenhower.
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« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2005, 10:47:49 PM »







Somewhat Optimistic?   Unless the GOP nominates someone that is totally unelectable, i can see no reason why the map would change so drastically from 2004-2008.  I don't doubt that Warner could carry VA, but I have serious doubts as to whether Clark could carry AR simply by being the VP candidate.
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« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2005, 11:05:19 PM »


But I have serious doubts as to whether Clark could carry AR simply by being the VP candidate.

Me too.  Although, Warner may do well enough there on his own that Clark may barley push him over the top, but I wouldnt hold my breath.  I don't see Arkansas going Dem. anytime soon.
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« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2005, 12:37:36 AM »

Clark would be Stockdale all over again lol
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« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2005, 02:55:20 AM »

I would support Clark but not Warner. He's nothing but the lesser of two evils again. It's also doubtful that Clark would take the backseat, having been supreme Natio allied commander (which, it is true, was not a position anywhere near as popular as Eisenhower's).
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« Reply #12 on: April 14, 2005, 02:09:47 PM »

I would support Clark but not Warner. He's nothing but the lesser of two evils again. It's also doubtful that Clark would take the backseat, having been supreme Natio allied commander (which, it is true, was not a position anywhere near as popular as Eisenhower's).

I would too, but I don't agree with the 'lesser of two evils' comment.  And unless Clark manages to gain elected office in the meantime, I would expect him to take a backseat.
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« Reply #13 on: April 14, 2005, 04:02:41 PM »

Assuming they were to get the nomination, niether would appeal to the left wing of the party.  I see a Green or Independent cnadidacy for so-called progressive voters getting a good 3-5% here.
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« Reply #14 on: April 14, 2005, 04:08:34 PM »

Assuming they were to get the nomination, niether would appeal to the left wing of the party.  I see a Green or Independent cnadidacy for so-called progressive voters getting a good 3-5% here.

What's odd though is that during the 2004 primaries Wes Clark had the endorsement of many Hollywood stars and even Michael Moore of all people.  Provided that progressive voters listen to what Hollywood has to say, I wouldn't necessarily say that there would be a significant bolt from the Democrats.
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« Reply #15 on: April 14, 2005, 06:38:46 PM »
« Edited: April 14, 2005, 06:41:36 PM by nickshepDEM »

Assuming they were to get the nomination, niether would appeal to the left wing of the party.  I see a Green or Independent cnadidacy for so-called progressive voters getting a good 3-5% here.

Actually, Clark is loved by most of the far lefties.  He is by far the most popular "politician" at DU.  He and Dean were probably the most progressive candidates in the 2004 primary (not counting the 2nd tier candidates like Kucinich and Braun).
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« Reply #16 on: April 14, 2005, 06:42:28 PM »

Assuming they were to get the nomination, niether would appeal to the left wing of the party.  I see a Green or Independent cnadidacy for so-called progressive voters getting a good 3-5% here.

Actually, Clark is loved by most of the far lefties.  He is by far the most popular "politician" at DU.  He and Dean were probably the most progressive candidates in the 2004 primary.

As I said before, Clark was endorsed by Michael Moore, who even wrote an entire chapter of his book on him.  That might explain why Clark is such a darling on the DU forum.
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« Reply #17 on: April 18, 2005, 09:51:47 AM »

Clark could be a very good candidate in 2008. I believe he's already preparing and getting everything in place.
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