Can you imagine a Republican equivalent to Andrew Cuomo?
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« on: November 14, 2014, 01:20:08 AM »

Let's imagine Texas had a Republican Governor who was a solid social conservative, but also an economic populist. He cracked down on oil companies, fought to increase corporate taxes and make the state's tax system more progressive, and expanded public welfare programs and education funding. Let's also imagine he got along poorly with Republican legislative leaders, so he actually worked with organizing a group of rogue Republican legislators to control one of the chambers in coalition with the Democrats thus allowing them to stonewall the teabagger agenda, and then openly insulted the Tea Party and talked about how Republicans don't need them.

That's basically the inverse of New York having Cuomo. And it's not only entirely implausible, any such Governor would be lucky to break 40% in the next GOP primary. It's pretty pathetic really that we have to put up with Cuomo at all.
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« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2014, 01:25:24 AM »

Several decades ago in NYC there was La Guardia. But today and in Texas? LOL!
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« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2014, 01:28:10 AM »

I'm convinced Cuomo and Christie are the same person.
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« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2014, 01:32:32 AM »

Ironically, Sarah Palin to some extent. She had a bipartisan coalition in the State Senate, though I don't think it was because of her anything. She raised some taxes and broke with her own party's canidates, though obviously the timeline is more expanded and extends past her term.
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« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2014, 01:38:29 AM »

Huckabee.  He emphatically doesn't care about his party's line on fiscal issues.
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« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2014, 02:48:03 AM »

^^^

I immediately thought of Palin and Huckabee, though obviously the corruption/general backstabbing/trickery isn't at the same level. And we'll never know if Palin would have won a second primary...
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« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2014, 02:49:50 AM »

You are referring to pre-08 Sarah Palin, and to a degree Mike Huckabee.
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« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2014, 04:04:49 AM »

The way people on this forum speak of him, I'm surprised to learn that Cuomo isn't a Republican.
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« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2014, 06:37:04 AM »

I think George P. Bush (Land Commissioner-elect) could get away with it if he ran for governor and were inclined to that sort of thing. Name recognition and voter inertia can take you quite far.
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« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2014, 10:10:43 AM »

The way people on this forum speak of him, I'm surprised to learn that Cuomo isn't a Republican.

He basically is; I'm not a fan of the term, but Cuomo is true DINO and has done far more damage than Lieberman and Zell Miller combined (both of whom were more or less ineffective cranks once they became DINOs).
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« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2014, 10:40:36 AM »

That guy who ran against Baucus in 2008 - Bob Kelleher or something?
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« Reply #11 on: November 14, 2014, 10:42:25 AM »

Ron Reagan should have played ball and become an ultra liberal Republican Governor.
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« Reply #12 on: November 14, 2014, 01:12:45 PM »

John Hoeven also had a populist economic streak as governor, but he quietly votes the partly line now that he's a senator.  Kind of like Mark Warner in that regard.
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« Reply #13 on: November 14, 2014, 02:16:03 PM »

Ron Reagan should have played ball and become an ultra liberal Republican Governor.

The party would be better of with Ron Reagan as its face.
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« Reply #14 on: November 14, 2014, 03:08:25 PM »

I wish a Republican like that existed.
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« Reply #15 on: November 14, 2014, 04:34:59 PM »

Chris Christie... Especially once you realize the Moreland Commission is Cuomo's Bridgegate.
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« Reply #16 on: November 14, 2014, 04:49:41 PM »

Let's imagine Texas had a Republican Governor who was a solid social conservative, but also an economic populist. He cracked down on oil companies, fought to increase corporate taxes and make the state's tax system more progressive, and expanded public welfare programs and education funding. Let's also imagine he got along poorly with Republican legislative leaders, so he actually worked with organizing a group of rogue Republican legislators to control one of the chambers in coalition with the Democrats thus allowing them to stonewall the teabagger agenda, and then openly insulted the Tea Party and talked about how Republicans don't need them.

Opposing Big Oil in Texas is perhaps personal as well as political suicide. So we are already far into the realm of fantasy -- about as if some pol from Vermont exposed that he was a hidden Klansman.

Really our only hope for any freedom in America is for a split between interests in Big Business.

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« Reply #17 on: November 14, 2014, 06:40:00 PM »

Let's imagine Texas had a Republican Governor who was a solid social conservative, but also an economic populist. He cracked down on oil companies, fought to increase corporate taxes and make the state's tax system more progressive, and expanded public welfare programs and education funding. Let's also imagine he got along poorly with Republican legislative leaders, so he actually worked with organizing a group of rogue Republican legislators to control one of the chambers in coalition with the Democrats thus allowing them to stonewall the teabagger agenda, and then openly insulted the Tea Party and talked about how Republicans don't need them.

That's basically the inverse of New York having Cuomo. And it's not only entirely implausible, any such Governor would be lucky to break 40% in the next GOP primary. It's pretty pathetic really that we have to put up with Cuomo at all.

What's more progressive or economically-efficient than taxing property at 2.2% (in the populated areas) and giving homestead exemptions for lower-income citizens and seniors?

Texas is socially conservative (unfortunately), not economically conservative.
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« Reply #18 on: November 14, 2014, 09:45:01 PM »

Let's imagine Texas had a Republican Governor who was a solid social conservative, but also an economic populist. He cracked down on oil companies, fought to increase corporate taxes and make the state's tax system more progressive, and expanded public welfare programs and education funding. Let's also imagine he got along poorly with Republican legislative leaders, so he actually worked with organizing a group of rogue Republican legislators to control one of the chambers in coalition with the Democrats thus allowing them to stonewall the teabagger agenda, and then openly insulted the Tea Party and talked about how Republicans don't need them.

That's basically the inverse of New York having Cuomo. And it's not only entirely implausible, any such Governor would be lucky to break 40% in the next GOP primary. It's pretty pathetic really that we have to put up with Cuomo at all.

I think the inverse of what you described is more likely to happen in the next decade or so; a free marketeer going against the religious right.
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« Reply #19 on: November 14, 2014, 10:05:52 PM »

Maybe if Thad Cochran ran as MS Governor.
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« Reply #20 on: November 14, 2014, 10:15:17 PM »

Maybe if Thad Cochran ran as MS Governor.

LOL no. Thad Cochran is a Republican hack who uses Democrats to win primaries.
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« Reply #21 on: November 14, 2014, 10:28:06 PM »

Sounds-to an extent-like Pat Buchanan.
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« Reply #22 on: November 15, 2014, 04:56:07 PM »

It gets worse: He may subtly try to undermine Hillary throughout the campaign to set himself up for 2020. Essentially, he'll try to be the Christie to her Romney.
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« Reply #23 on: November 15, 2014, 05:47:21 PM »

Probably Huckabee. Than again Arkansas isn't a really fiscally conservative state to begin with. The state has a strong Dem past.
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