Paul Krugman: "The Affordable Care Act is working"

[AggregateDemand]

Being covered > not being covered. Is that so hard to understand?

If health insurance were that simple, our problems would have been solved during the stone age by ordinary citizens, without the need for government intervention.

[Simfan34]

Gotta love the completely factless "rebuttals" by our resident idiots.

Healthcare insurance is virtually unchanged since ACA. Democrats chose to continue the failed status quo, with a few tweaks to make it less bitter.

Sharpest coverage increase ever = "virtually unchanged".

OK...

It's clear he is speaking about the quality of healthcare. It's probably too soon for there to be much change, much less discernible change, so I think he's technically correct.

[Oldiesfreak1854]

Obviously he hasn't been paying attention to the news lately.  Saying that Obamacare is working is like saying that 2+2=7 or that the sun rises in the west and sets in the east.

Or saying you should judge a party by its current views instead of the ones it held in 1860s.

I never said that.  The fact of the matter remains that Democrats have gone from being the party of slavery and Jim Crow to the party of job-killing taxes and abortion on demand.  The Democrats' policies of today are almost as repulsive to me as their policies of the 1860s.

Christ, just shut the hell up already.  Shouldn't you be in middle school right now?

Nope, sorry, I'm in college.  Nice try, though.

[Sbane]

Obamacare is successful if you define success as increased coverage. But it has also led to more workers being confined to 29.5 hours a week so employers don't have to pay for their health insurance. So the working class don't get health insurance through their work as the law intended, make less money because their hours got cut and have to buy insurance that may be overpriced compared to their individual actuarial risk. This law is just too big and too complex to simply say it has been a success or a failure. It has clearly been both with some winners and some losers.

[King]

Obviously he hasn't been paying attention to the news lately.  Saying that Obamacare is working is like saying that 2+2=7 or that the sun rises in the west and sets in the east.

Link me to this news I missed.

[H. Ross Peron]

Being covered > not being covered. Is that so hard to understand?

If health insurance were that simple, our problems would have been solved during the stone age by ordinary citizens, without the need for government intervention.

Virtually every advanced country besides us have solved the problem in a more or less satisfactory way.

[Franzl]

Obviously he hasn't been paying attention to the news lately.  Saying that Obamacare is working is like saying that 2+2=7 or that the sun rises in the west and sets in the east.

Or saying you should judge a party by its current views instead of the ones it held in 1860s.

I never said that.  The fact of the matter remains that Democrats have gone from being the party of slavery and Jim Crow to the party of job-killing taxes and abortion on demand.  The Democrats' policies of today are almost as repulsive to me as their policies of the 1860s.

Christ, just shut the hell up already.  Shouldn't you be in middle school right now?

Nope, sorry, I'm in college.  Nice try, though.

I do feel sorry for any college that's that desperate to collect tuition fees.

[Oldiesfreak1854]

Being covered > not being covered. Is that so hard to understand?

If health insurance were that simple, our problems would have been solved during the stone age by ordinary citizens, without the need for government intervention.

Virtually every advanced country besides us have solved the problem in a more or less satisfactory way.

Sure, if rationing and long lines are "more or less satisfactory."

[Franzl]

Being covered > not being covered. Is that so hard to understand?

If health insurance were that simple, our problems would have been solved during the stone age by ordinary citizens, without the need for government intervention.

Virtually every advanced country besides us have solved the problem in a more or less satisfactory way.

Sure, if rationing and long lines are "more or less satisfactory."

The "long lines" depend on the system. Most countries don't have particularly excessive waiting times. I can get an appointment with most doctors in a matter of days. With specialists a week or two.

And every system practices "rationing", it's only that the US does it entirely on ability to pay.

Not that I expect you to understand this.

[AggregateDemand]

Virtually every advanced country besides us have solved the problem in a more or less satisfactory way.

No. They chose between the lesser of two evils, and they neglected their responsibility to the human race to develop/discover/engineer better outcomes.

The US rejected the notion of choosing between lesser evils, but our inept legislators have succeeded in engineering new outcomes that are much worse than libertarian misallocation or nationalized rationing. Thanks to ACA, the ineptitude of the legislative branches affects more people than ever before.

[Negusa Nagast 🚀]

Obviously he hasn't been paying attention to the news lately.  Saying that Obamacare is working is like saying that 2+2=7 or that the sun rises in the west and sets in the east.

Link me to this news I missed.

[Badger]

Liberals are the people who order gruel at the nicest restaurant in the world. Then they brag about how nourishing it was.

Plebeians and their ridiculous sense of morality.

Using 'plebians' as an insult? Even Montgomery Burns isn't that much a caricture.