Could the republican party be tried for crimes against humanity?
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« on: May 24, 2014, 03:05:32 AM »

Hear me out on this one. The UN includes in its basic rights charter the right to adequate medical care. Not only has this been prevented in America due to Rs, but 17,000 people die every year due to not having health insurance. Just food for thought.
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« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2014, 03:11:42 AM »

I don't think it's a good idea to charge an entire political party and all of its members of crimes against humanity.

Very few parties in world history even meet that standard.
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« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2014, 04:04:19 AM »

Doesn't that charter also say that everyone has the right to have a job?
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« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2014, 06:08:04 AM »

You can't think of any groups of people doing more harm in the entire world than the GOP?
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« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2014, 06:12:14 AM »

No, unless you have an incredibly shallow understanding of the law.
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« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2014, 09:13:21 AM »

Hear me out on this one. The UN includes in its basic rights charter the right to adequate medical care. Not only has this been prevented in America due to Rs, but 17,000 people die every year due to not having health insurance. Just food for thought.

If a patient walks in to a public health facility, they get treated. It's the same in Republican states as it is in Democratic states. Furthermore, I don't think you understand how nationalized healthcare or single-payer systems work. They ration care and deny access to certain treatments to keep costs contained for the good of the entire society. The United States has refused to ration care or treatments, believing instead that we can pay any bill no matter how high the cost because we are the richest nation on earth. For this reason, Medicare and Medicaid cost as much as universal single-payer or nationalized healthcare, though they provide for just 1/3 of the population.

Also, insurance is not a fundamental human right. It is a tool for spreading risk. If insurance is improperly used, you're as likely to send a nail through your own hand as you are to build a better society. Guess how the US uses insurance.

I understand that Democrats accumulate power by proliferating the myth that Americans don't have access to healthcare, but it isn't true. Americans have virtually no limitations on how much healthcare they can use, and we also use health insurance in the laziest most-convenient way possible. Our healthcare idealism has led to absurd costs, which have exacerbated the disparity between rich-poor and young-old.

Reform has been on the docket for decades. Either kick senior citizens out of Medicaid and reform Medicare or accept the fact that young people are going to die or go bankrupt, while paying for pointless, overpriced end-of-life-procedures on American octogenarians. Left-wingers around the world made the correct reforms nearly one century ago. The debauched Democrats in this country still can't get it right.
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« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2014, 09:15:41 AM »

lol
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« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2014, 09:33:19 AM »

No they couldn't, technically, that's absurd.  Would it make for great showmanship from the left for just putting it out there, though?   Oh hells yea. 
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« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2014, 12:20:03 PM »

Probably not the whole outfit, but literally every President since 1945 could be charged for war crimes and definitely should be held responsible, as should their sycophants and confidants in crime in their cabinets and advisory staffs.
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« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2014, 12:21:08 PM »

How does convicting groups of millions of people at once work?
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« Reply #10 on: May 24, 2014, 12:27:32 PM »

How does convicting groups of millions of people at once work?

Sign a treaty at Versailles.
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« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2014, 12:30:41 PM »

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« Reply #12 on: May 24, 2014, 12:47:19 PM »

You're confusing crimes against humanity with human rights violations.
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« Reply #13 on: May 24, 2014, 01:25:00 PM »

Roll Eyes
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« Reply #14 on: May 24, 2014, 02:35:34 PM »

As if the UN Human Rights Charter has ever had any real meaning anywhere.....
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« Reply #15 on: May 24, 2014, 02:37:18 PM »

You can't think of any groups of people doing more harm in the entire world than the GOP?
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« Reply #16 on: May 24, 2014, 03:53:21 PM »

So far as I can tell, no Party has ever been tried for crimes against humanity. Outlawed? Sure, typically by the order of a victorious power or by a group that has deposed a Party. This does not include the outlawry of a Party during the consolidation of a single-party regime.

Political parties and movements best described as syndicates of organized crime have been outlawed, and most such bans remain intact. Some such Parties and movements include:

German Nazi Party (and related groups in the Netherlands, Denmark, and Norway)
Flemish National Union "VNV" and Rexists (Belgium)
National Fascist Party (Italy)
Ustaše (WWII Croatia)
Parti Populaire Français (Vichy France)
Arrow Cross Party (Hungary)
Slovak People's Party (puppet Slovakia)
Iron Guard (Romania)
Imperial Rule Assistance Party (thug Japan)
Ba'ath Party (Iraq)




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« Reply #17 on: May 24, 2014, 04:24:30 PM »

No, but certain individuals (the various Vietnam folks, Kissinger, The various figures of Dubya's administration) should most certainly be.
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« Reply #18 on: May 24, 2014, 04:29:46 PM »

No, but the politicians should be.
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« Reply #19 on: May 24, 2014, 04:39:08 PM »

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« Reply #20 on: May 24, 2014, 04:48:59 PM »

This is absurd, especially compared to the fact that a major country on the world's stage just elected someone who actually oversaw a genocide as its Prime Minister.
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« Reply #21 on: May 24, 2014, 05:44:08 PM »

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« Reply #22 on: May 24, 2014, 05:49:52 PM »

     I didn't think such a thing was possible, but the quality of topics on this board seems to be declining even further. Woe be unto us.
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