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« Reply #25 on: December 02, 2013, 01:05:46 AM »

Main criteria, on which people decided who was a liberal and who - conservative, were, in JFK time, economical. Now they are social. JFK was an economical liberal (pragmatic liberal, but still liberal), but i am not sure he would easily support, say, "gay marriage" or "light narcotics possession for personal use"
Actually, believe it or not, his lifelong best friend was gay, and letters exchanged between the two indicate a pretty liberal attitude on JFK's part with regards to homosexuality.

JFK would not have supported gay marriage in 1963.
JFK would support gay marriage in 2013.
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« Reply #26 on: December 02, 2013, 01:27:11 AM »

The main problem is that a number of people try to label him ideologically in a way that claims him as their own. Instead, we should all outright reject him and, in doing so, label him the furthest thing from us.
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« Reply #27 on: December 02, 2013, 02:08:18 AM »

Throughout much of his career in the House and the Senate he was pretty conservative.
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Later, as a candidate and President he was increasingly turning to a more liberal vision, evidenced by the New Frontier, but was still relatively conservative in his approach compared to some of his more liberal advisers and how LBJ would turn out to be.  He wanted to start out small and not too hasty when it came to expanding social programs.  He didn't emulate the class populist rhetoric at times used by FDR, Truman, and many on the left.  Instead he held that "a rising tide lifts all boats" and argued for lowering top tax rates in an almost supply-side fashion.  Really it was still basically Keynesian even if Keynes would have preferred spending instead, and it's worth remembering that LBJ continued the tax cutting even further.
After Reagan, it's much easier to see the JFK presidency in conservative terms, since Reagan emphasized stimulative tax cuts instead of the deficit reduction emphasis of older conservatism.  Also Reagan adopted the optimistic revolutionary rhetoric of JFK's liberal mode.
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« Reply #28 on: December 02, 2013, 04:21:08 AM »
« Edited: December 02, 2013, 04:23:46 AM by ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ »

Throughout much of his career in the House and the Senate he was pretty conservative.
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Later, as a candidate and President he was increasingly turning to a more liberal vision, evidenced by the New Frontier, but was still relatively conservative in his approach compared to some of his more liberal advisers and how LBJ would turn out to be.  He wanted to start out small and not too hasty when it came to expanding social programs.  He didn't emulate the class populist rhetoric at times used by FDR, Truman, and many on the left.  Instead he held that "a rising tide lifts all boats" and argued for lowering top tax rates in an almost supply-side fashion.  Really it was still basically Keynesian even if Keynes would have preferred spending instead, and it's worth remembering that LBJ continued the tax cutting even further.
After Reagan, it's much easier to see the JFK presidency in conservative terms, since Reagan emphasized stimulative tax cuts instead of the deficit reduction emphasis of older conservatism.  Also Reagan adopted the optimistic revolutionary rhetoric of JFK's liberal mode.

JFK cut the top marginal tax rate to 70% for all income over $200,000. That included capital gains. 

Are you in favor of all income above $1.5 million (That $200,000 in today's dollars) being taxed at 70%?
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« Reply #29 on: December 02, 2013, 02:27:38 PM »

Throughout much of his career in the House and the Senate he was pretty conservative.
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Later, as a candidate and President he was increasingly turning to a more liberal vision, evidenced by the New Frontier, but was still relatively conservative in his approach compared to some of his more liberal advisers and how LBJ would turn out to be.  He wanted to start out small and not too hasty when it came to expanding social programs.  He didn't emulate the class populist rhetoric at times used by FDR, Truman, and many on the left.  Instead he held that "a rising tide lifts all boats" and argued for lowering top tax rates in an almost supply-side fashion.  Really it was still basically Keynesian even if Keynes would have preferred spending instead, and it's worth remembering that LBJ continued the tax cutting even further.
After Reagan, it's much easier to see the JFK presidency in conservative terms, since Reagan emphasized stimulative tax cuts instead of the deficit reduction emphasis of older conservatism.  Also Reagan adopted the optimistic revolutionary rhetoric of JFK's liberal mode.

JFK cut the top marginal tax rate to 70% for all income over $200,000. That included capital gains. 

Are you in favor of all income above $1.5 million (That $200,000 in today's dollars) being taxed at 70%?

No, I'm not in favor of that. Why?  Just focusing on tax rates doesn't tell you everything when it comes to economic philosophy.  Still I'll point out the capital gains tax rate during JFK's presidency was 25% - same as now and lower than in the 1986 tax reform signed by Reagan (http://www.ctj.org/pdf/regcg.pdf). 
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