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« on: November 03, 2013, 04:51:22 PM »

As most people know, I love to trash metal, and especially black metal, and play up the anti-Christian views of black metal bands and most metalheads a lot for a long time, and have basically held metalheads to be morally degenerate anti-Christians and use the anti-Christian aspect as a big part of hating metal.

Despite this I listen to lots of anti-Christian hardcore bands including many with anti-Christian lyrics and all this time never cared, just shrugging it off as "Oh well they can believe what they want" or "I still agree with them on most things" or "They're probably nice guys personally regardless." All of which is true, but essentially I held the anti-Christian aspect of metal to be a huge negative and not caring in the slightest if it was present in what I liked. My policy was basically "I like hardcore so I'll tolerate it when bands I like are anti-Christian but I hate metal so I'll attack metal bands for being anti-Christian."

And for well over a decade this double standard went unnoticed, and I didn't realize it all until now. It just hit me like a ton of bricks and the realization overtook me...weird.

No I still hate metal and yes I'll listen to anti-Christian hardcore, but a realization like that is WEIRD.
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« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2013, 04:56:44 PM »

Do you have any pets?
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« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2013, 05:07:43 PM »

BRTD gaining self-awareness?

Did the poles just reverse?
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« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2013, 05:10:24 PM »

BRTD gaining self-awareness?

Did the poles just reverse?

Universal implosion should come any second now.
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« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2013, 05:17:13 PM »

I sincerely wish the remainder of your days are peppered with these weird sensations.
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« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2013, 05:38:42 PM »

Extending ideological consistency to your media tastes is a pointless exercise, and rest assured there is similar dissonance at hand on the other side of the fence. Seriously, ask any metalhead their thoughts on Christianity in the scene and the response will be scathingly negative. Then mention Black Sabbath and Saint Vitus and watch as they collapse into a pile of umms and errs while they attempt to simultaneously rebuke Christian metal and tolerate it, either out of their own appreciation for those bands or out of reverence for them as old greats.

Usually it's some variation of "well there are bands that exist solely to promote religion (Crimson Twilight, Mortification, etc.) and secular bands with some casually religious members and songs." which I tend to agree with, but a better idea is to simply stick to your guns as you have been and allow for these categorical exceptions because it's not that important.
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« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2013, 05:41:50 PM »

Now can you acknowledge that your caricature of metal only applies to obscure trash no one listens to and mainstream metal bands like Iron Maiden, Black Sabbath, etc., are neither anti-Christian nor right-wing?
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« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2013, 06:21:17 PM »

All humanity will cease to exist in t-minus 10...9...
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« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2013, 07:37:39 PM »

ONE way?
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« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2013, 07:59:19 PM »

I still don't understand how some people can hate metal.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CD-E-LDc384
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« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2013, 08:56:17 PM »

BRTD gaining self-awareness?

Did the poles just reverse?

BRTD ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Wlsd9mljiU&feature=youtu.be&t=4m12s
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« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2013, 09:12:11 PM »

As most people know, I love to trash metal, and especially black metal, and play up the anti-Christian views of black metal bands and most metalheads a lot for a long time, and have basically held metalheads to be morally degenerate anti-Christians and use the anti-Christian aspect as a big part of hating metal.
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You'd be surprised how many metal bands do not fit that description. Outside of black metal, metal bands who are genuinely anti-religion are pretty rare.
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« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2013, 09:45:13 PM »

True bangers would accept designation as moral degenerates by even the kumbaya-est of Christians with great pride
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« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2013, 06:23:58 AM »

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I shouted "SLAYERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!" before i clicked the link

i was wrong
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« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2013, 06:56:14 AM »

cool story bro
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« Reply #15 on: November 04, 2013, 08:18:02 AM »

Just one way?
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« Reply #16 on: November 04, 2013, 08:19:09 AM »

Pity you didn't pick a more relevant case to discuss.
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« Reply #17 on: November 04, 2013, 10:23:20 AM »

As most people know, I love (...) trash metal (...) that is WEIRD.
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« Reply #18 on: November 04, 2013, 06:24:34 PM »

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I shouted "SLAYERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!" before i clicked the link

i was wrong

That just happened to be first song that popped into my head. Is this better? Tongue
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« Reply #19 on: November 04, 2013, 07:34:17 PM »

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I shouted "SLAYERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!" before i clicked the link

i was wrong

That just happened to be first song that popped into my head. Is this better? Tongue

Better.
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« Reply #20 on: November 04, 2013, 09:56:46 PM »

This is the thing about yourself that you find hypocritical?  Really, that is where you draw the line?
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