Which U.S. President most closely personifies Machiavelli's "prince"?
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JRP1994
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« on: September 12, 2013, 10:11:54 PM »
Which of the 44 US Presidents most closely personifies Machiavelli's ideal "prince"? Discuss.
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« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2013, 10:19:22 PM »
I don't think any President was truly feared by the American populace. I'd say LBJ in regards to how he treated fellow politicians and world leaders, if anyone.
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« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2013, 10:23:50 PM »
Nixon. Is this even a question?
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« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2013, 10:32:35 PM »

Well, we've got two answers now - one Democrat and one Republican - so I think it qualifies as a legitimate question.
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« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2013, 10:35:44 PM »
LBJ didn't fear others.  He was so confident that he owned everyone that he treated few with respect.

Nixon was definitely the most paranoid President.
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« Reply #5 on: September 13, 2013, 12:08:50 AM »
Have you guys seen the movie "Dick?" Really shows another side of President Nixon.
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« Reply #6 on: September 13, 2013, 07:24:35 AM »
Nixon. 
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« Reply #7 on: September 13, 2013, 10:11:33 AM »
Could it be a Party Boss instead of a President? Karl Rove took the role when Dubya was president.
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« Reply #8 on: September 13, 2013, 10:19:17 AM »
Somebody is taking Political Philosophy this semester...
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« Reply #9 on: September 13, 2013, 02:00:08 PM »
Quote from: Paul Kemp on September 13, 2013, 10:19:17 AM
Somebody is taking Political Philosophy this semester...

And evidently needs help writing his essay. Tongue
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« Reply #10 on: September 13, 2013, 03:18:03 PM »
Haha. That is half-correct. Tongue

I am taking Political Philosophy this semester (specifically, the philosophical underpinnings of the American system of governance). Machiavelli has been mentioned, but only briefly. I had read a portion of "The Prince" in the past, and hearing his name this semester reminded me of "The Prince". So I began pondering the question of which U.S. President most closely personifies the "prince."

So, while I am taking the course, this isn't for an assignment - just a question about which I am curious. Smiley
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« Reply #11 on: September 13, 2013, 03:28:38 PM »
Some good candidates
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« Reply #12 on: September 13, 2013, 03:30:48 PM »
Yeah, I'd say LBJ, and to a lesser extent Nixon, are those that come to mind.

In France, Mitterrand might be an even better example.
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« Reply #13 on: September 13, 2013, 04:13:49 PM »
believe it or not, but I have a presidents book that has a list of Macheillvan presidents.....once I get ahold of it again I'll post it here Smiley
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« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2013, 02:00:27 PM »
FDR, in the 20th Century, and I mean that in a very good way.  I take the position that to be a Machiavellian leader is not necessarily a bad thing.
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