Elizabeth Warren takes a shot Dan Winslow "He wants us armed and stoned"
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« on: March 25, 2013, 10:16:22 PM »

http://www.theweedblog.com/federal-senator-takes-dig-at-pro-marijuana-legalization-candidate-dan-winslow/

Progressive Hero Elizabeth Warren decides to take a shot at Dan Winslow, a candidate who, apparently, supports legalization of marijuana. What a liberal.
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« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2013, 10:54:43 PM »

It sounds like she was making a joke so I wouldn't take it too seriously; but even then it's more an attack on his gun record than on his marijuana views.
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« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2013, 10:58:57 PM »

Is being "armed" or "stoned" bad? Really?

It's still remarkable to me anywhere in the world could pick this lady over Scott Brown.
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« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2013, 11:15:07 PM »

One of them, yes - the other... eh but the two combined... no thanks.

Scott Brown was a waste of space... end of story.
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« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2013, 11:17:43 PM »

Scott Brown was a waste of space... end of story.

You'd rather have an empty glass than a glass of poison.
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« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2013, 11:20:39 PM »

Scott Brown was a waste of space... end of story.

You'd rather have an empty glass than a glass of poison.

I think you mistake her rhetoric for someone who is actually pretty middle of the road on most things.
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« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2013, 11:48:14 PM »

Never thought I'd see Warren being criticized for telling a joke that is not liberal enough. What is the big deal here?

Elizabeth Warren won because she is the better fit for the state, end of story.
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« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2013, 11:53:15 PM »

Scott Brown was a waste of space... end of story.

You'd rather have an empty glass than a glass of poison.

Basic consumer protections and banking regulations aren't poison.
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« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2013, 12:03:48 AM »

It sounds like she was making a joke so I wouldn't take it too seriously; but even then it's more an attack on his gun record than on his marijuana views.

I think you are probably right on this, but its the same sort of tone that Governor Hickenlooper uses towards people who wanted legalization in Colorado: 75% joking, 25% insulting.
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« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2013, 01:14:53 AM »

Yes, the consumer protections lady has some reservations about the unhinged legalization of drugs.
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« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2013, 02:10:16 AM »

As a not exactly pro-drug liberal, I must say I find it worrisome that people are now making supporting legalization a liberal litmus test. That's ridiculous.
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« Reply #11 on: March 26, 2013, 03:13:32 AM »

As a not exactly pro-drug liberal, I must say I find it worrisome that people are now making supporting legalization a liberal litmus test. That's ridiculous.

Good, now you know how I feel about the gun-control nonsense.
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« Reply #12 on: March 26, 2013, 03:16:23 AM »

As a not exactly pro-drug liberal, I must say I find it worrisome that people are now making supporting legalization a liberal litmus test. That's ridiculous.

Good, now you know how I feel about the gun-control nonsense.

I wouldn't call gun control a liberal litmus test issue. Just a matter of common sense.. Wink
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« Reply #13 on: March 26, 2013, 09:09:39 AM »
« Edited: March 26, 2013, 09:17:12 AM by Sbane »

As a not exactly pro-drug liberal, I must say I find it worrisome that people are now making supporting legalization a liberal litmus test. That's ridiculous.

At least being for decriminalization should be a litmus test. Do you really want people to go to jail for smoking weed? Not to mention, do you want criminals to profit off growing, trafficking and selling the stuff? Supporting decriminalization is a must in my view, while legalization makes a lot of sense as well as long as you don't support criminals.
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« Reply #14 on: March 26, 2013, 10:53:03 AM »

As a not exactly pro-drug liberal, I must say I find it worrisome that people are now making supporting legalization a liberal litmus test. That's ridiculous.

Good, now you know how I feel about the gun-control nonsense.

I wouldn't call gun control a liberal litmus test issue. Just a matter of common sense.. Wink

Considering how stupid and badly designed most gun control legislation is, I wouldn't agree (see Assault Weapons Ban or anything Carolyn McCarthy has ever proposed.)
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« Reply #15 on: March 26, 2013, 11:12:51 AM »

As a not exactly pro-drug liberal, I must say I find it worrisome that people are now making supporting legalization a liberal litmus test. That's ridiculous.

At least being for decriminalization should be a litmus test. Do you really want people to go to jail for smoking weed? Not to mention, do you want criminals to profit off growing, trafficking and selling the stuff? Supporting decriminalization is a must in my view, while legalization makes a lot of sense as well as long as you don't support criminals.

Decriminalization without legalization would just increase the profit criminals are making, no? Demand would go up because people wouldn't get in trouble for doing it any more, but the profiteers would still be the unsavory criminal elements since the sale itself would still be outlawed.
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« Reply #16 on: March 26, 2013, 11:18:51 AM »

This is why I worry about the Dems holding onto the youth vote. Recently it seems as though the GOP is taking the more progressive stance on this issue while the Democrats are being the more law and order party. Not good.
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« Reply #17 on: March 26, 2013, 11:29:23 AM »

As a not exactly pro-drug liberal, I must say I find it worrisome that people are now making supporting legalization a liberal litmus test. That's ridiculous.

I guess liberals aren't making it a litmus test, but I would like it if they did.
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« Reply #18 on: March 26, 2013, 03:35:50 PM »

As a not exactly pro-drug liberal, I must say I find it worrisome that people are now making supporting legalization a liberal litmus test. That's ridiculous.

At least being for decriminalization should be a litmus test. Do you really want people to go to jail for smoking weed? Not to mention, do you want criminals to profit off growing, trafficking and selling the stuff? Supporting decriminalization is a must in my view, while legalization makes a lot of sense as well as long as you don't support criminals.

Decriminalization without legalization would just increase the profit criminals are making, no? Demand would go up because people wouldn't get in trouble for doing it any more, but the profiteers would still be the unsavory criminal elements since the sale itself would still be outlawed.

Indeed, theoretically you would expect that. Of course you would have to see whether medical marijuana is legalized and how much diversion you see from it.
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« Reply #19 on: March 26, 2013, 03:42:55 PM »

As a not exactly pro-drug liberal, I must say I find it worrisome that people are now making supporting legalization a liberal litmus test. That's ridiculous.

Why is it ridiculous?  Its an important issue to a lot of liberal voters, and after all it is pretty hard for a modern, young liberal to accept anyone being opposed to legalization:  it seems outlandish and incredibly out-of-date.  I suppose Warren is very old.
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« Reply #20 on: March 26, 2013, 03:45:06 PM »

There's literally no good reason for keeping marijuana outlawed. So yes, not taking ridiculous and indefensible positions is a litmus test for me.
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« Reply #21 on: March 26, 2013, 03:51:42 PM »

I honestly can't bring myself to care.
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« Reply #22 on: March 26, 2013, 07:52:43 PM »

I find the idea of someone being stoned and heavily armed a bad idea.
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« Reply #23 on: March 26, 2013, 07:57:00 PM »

I find the idea of someone being stoned and heavily armed a bad idea.

Better than being drunk and heavily armed. That is for sure.
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« Reply #24 on: March 26, 2013, 10:47:47 PM »

It's not a litmus test for me, but it's an easy, low-hanging issue and I'm disappointed at Warren's comments.

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Exactly. The idea that someone who is stoned will go on a murderous rampage is just absurd to me. It reminds me of the prosecution's humorous theories in the Amanda Knox case.
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