Is the Tea Party to blame for losiing Wisconsin too?
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Mister Twister
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« on: November 11, 2012, 11:53:43 PM »

Thompson came out of the primary badly damaged by his crazy tea party opponents. The primary also forced Thompson to say crazy things such as "Who better to away with social security than me?"

In a sense, isn't the Tea Party to blame for losing Wisconsin too?
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« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2012, 11:54:46 PM »

cant see your post since i got you on ignore, but No.

Thompson destroyed himself! His son didn't help with his birther comments.
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« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2012, 01:10:25 AM »

Wisconsin is a Democratic state. It was always going to be tough for a Republican to win a Senate race in a presidential year there.
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« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2012, 01:21:39 AM »

I'm in concurrence with CountryRoads on this one: Thompson was just a spectacular dud on his own. I'm of the opinion that if either of his challengers had come out of the primary - particularly Hovde - they would have given Baldwin a much stiffer run for her money.

Then again, I'm happy with Baldwin, so I don't suppose I'm complaining.
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« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2012, 01:41:33 AM »

If Ron Johnson retires in 2016, can we expect Tommy Thompson to come up as a slam dunk dream candidate again? Glad he's finally done.
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« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2012, 01:45:50 AM »

It is basically like saying guy lost because he didn't do enough X, if only he could have done even less of X then he would have almost certainly won. The guy was trying to sleep his way into the Senate. The idea that "if only he had a clear field" he would have won is clearly ridiculous when you consider that Baldwin was going to fight for it and that is why she won in the end. People want fighters, not sleepers.

Also this notion, "well he had to say some crazy things". No he didn't have to say "I am best to do away with medicare", that is "Severely Conservative" times 1,000. Trying to appeal to a base you a completely disconnected with in the most idiotic and inneffective way possible, straight out of the Romney guide to winning primaries 101. The base is there, they aren't going away. And if Thompson became out of touch, it is because he was out of touch, not because the base made him say stupid crap. That base doesn't make you say crap, the base wants committment, fidelity, vigor and passion because they are pissed off. How a candidate makes the connection to that is entirely up to them and if they mess up it is their own fault. I am sure these lame establishment politicians enjoy having a scape goat, but you know what I don't feel the least bit sorry for them. For the most part, they have been screwing this country over for decades and the idea they they suddenly have to work for it and aren't guarranteed victory anymore, just plain breaks my stone cold heart, NOT! Tongue

This one is all on the establishment. This is one where the TP could have bailed us out from a bad establishment candidate.
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« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2012, 01:59:16 AM »

Wisconsin is a Democratic state. It was always going to be tough for a Republican to win a Senate race in a presidential year there.

You forgot about Baldwin's Bay Area lifestyle.
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« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2012, 10:38:57 AM »

Thompson was a poor candidate who couldn't raise money or generate enthusiasm (which was also a- quite possibly the- major problem for Romney) to save his life. A clear field wouldn't have necessarily changed that. Plus he didn't really want it, tried to sleepwalk in. Baldwin wanted it, Thompson didn't. I'll freely admit supporting him in the primary though, I doubt Hovde could've done better and Neumann certainly wouldn't have.
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