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« on: January 19, 2005, 10:00:16 PM »

I was bored:

1960


Nixon 476
Kennedy 42
Other 19

1964


Johnson 440
Goldwater 98

1968


Humphrey 398
Nixon 95
Wallace 45

...more later...
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« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2005, 10:03:05 PM »

Great idea
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« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2005, 05:36:03 PM »

2004-



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« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2005, 10:39:12 PM »

1972


Nixon 492
McGovern 46

1976


Ford 443
Carter 95

1980


Carter 297
Reagan 241
 
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« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2005, 11:01:17 PM »

1984


Reagan 418
Mondale 120

1988 - WOW


Bush 269
Dukakis 269

1992


Bush 350
Clinton 188

1996


Dole 282
Clinton 256

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« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2005, 01:29:36 AM »


Wow, that's interesting.  Guess it was actually closer than it looked.
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« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2005, 01:34:53 AM »

Wouldn't Perot technically win in Maine in '92?
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« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2005, 06:14:30 AM »


Wow, that's interesting.  Guess it was actually closer than it looked.
I've been telling that to people for ages, but spinsters will continue claiming Reagan won a landslide. Nonsense.
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« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2005, 07:46:04 AM »

same with Dukakis.
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« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2005, 08:35:31 AM »


Wow, that's interesting.  Guess it was actually closer than it looked.
I've been telling that to people for ages, but spinsters will continue claiming Reagan won a landslide. Nonsense.

You must have a very strict definition of 'landslide', then. To me, anything over 400 ev (out of 538, or 535, or a similar number) is a landslide. Thus, 1952, 1956, 1964, 1972, 1980, 1984, and 1988 were landslides.

Here's my scale (assuming 48 or more states, 520 or more EV's):
400+ : Landslide
300-400: Run-of-the-mill victory (examples: 1948, 1960, 1968, 1992, 1996)
minimum needed - 300: Close victory (examples include 1976, 2000, and 2004).
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« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2005, 09:31:18 AM »

The EV is a very bad gauge of a landslide...too much influence of geographical distribution of voters, too little influence of their actual numbers. 1980 was actually pretty much like 1996 in actual numbers (though Reagan did cross 50%+1 vote).
Of course, that national states map is existly where the misapprehension comes from. I guess you could call it a landslide in the EV...but who cares how individual electors vote as long as it doesn't change the overall outcome?
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« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2005, 11:04:29 AM »
« Edited: January 21, 2005, 11:06:27 AM by Senator Gabu »

Looking at this, it would seem to me that a good definition of a landslide is, "an election in which even a 5% swing to the loser would still have left the victor with a comfortable margin".  Then only the huge ones like 1964 and 1976 would qualify and ones where the person just won a deceptively large number of states wouldn't.
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« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2005, 11:06:30 AM »

In 1980, Reagan won most of those Southern states (and New York) by very small margins.

Doesn't surprise me at all.

Same type of thing happened in 1988, btw.
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« Reply #13 on: January 21, 2005, 11:13:02 AM »

Looking at this, it would seem to me that a good definition of a landslide is, "an election in which even a 5% swing to the loser would still have left the victor with a comfortable margin".  Then only the huge ones like 1964 and 1976 would qualify and ones where the person just won a deceptively large number of states wouldn't.
1976? Don't you mean 1972?
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« Reply #14 on: January 21, 2005, 06:10:51 PM »

Looking at this, it would seem to me that a good definition of a landslide is, "an election in which even a 5% swing to the loser would still have left the victor with a comfortable margin".  Then only the huge ones like 1964 and 1976 would qualify and ones where the person just won a deceptively large number of states wouldn't.
1976? Don't you mean 1972?

Oops.  Yes, 1972.
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« Reply #15 on: January 22, 2005, 03:35:10 PM »

That's depressing.
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« Reply #16 on: January 22, 2005, 03:54:03 PM »

2000


Gore 392
Bush 146
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« Reply #17 on: January 22, 2005, 04:03:25 PM »

1912



Wilson  391
Taft        41
Teddy R 99
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« Reply #18 on: January 23, 2005, 03:31:08 PM »

Here's all the elections in more detail, this is based on popular vote only (see Alabama 1960).  Also, I couldn't do 1992 or 1968 because of the states being won by less than 40%.

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1964


1972


1976


1980


1984


1988


1996


2000 (I did swings to Bush and Gore)

5% swing to Bush:


5% swing to Gore:
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« Reply #19 on: January 25, 2005, 07:00:55 AM »

1912



Wilson  391
Taft        41
Teddy R 99
Swing from where to where?
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« Reply #20 on: January 26, 2005, 07:29:26 PM »

Wow.... if Goldwater gained 5% he would have been only utterly crushed, instead of totally utterly crushed...

Wow.... if Mondale gained 5% he would have been only utterly crushed, instead of totally utterly crushed...
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