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« on: January 24, 2005, 11:24:47 AM »

Please drop out of your respective offices as this is "custom" when you are running for presidency. That is all.
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« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2005, 11:38:21 AM »

Please drop out of your respective offices as this is "custom" when you are running for presidency. That is all.

Um...no.  You still do not understand the difference between holding one office while you run for another and running for two offices simultaneously.
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« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2005, 12:40:04 PM »

Joe Lieberman ran for Senator and Vice President at the same time. I got no problem with that.
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« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2005, 12:40:54 PM »

Joe Lieberman ran for Senator and Vice President at the same time. I got no problem with that.

Of course, its a double standard. They attack me all the time on it and they don't say a word to you.
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« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2005, 12:42:41 PM »

Well, I'm not attacking you.

PS Kemp: While it's not quite the same, the essential part remains that we're all running with a safety net. We have a position even if we don't win.
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« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2005, 12:43:01 PM »

Is KEmperor "running for re-election" for Chief Justice? No. It's a different situation.

If Lewis is running for re-election for Lt. Governor next month than I don't think he should be running either.
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« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2005, 12:44:08 PM »

Is KEmperor "running for re-election" for Chief Justice? No. It's a different situation.

If Lewis is running for re-election for Lt. Governor next month than I don't think he should be running either.

That makes no sense at all really. Its a dumb "custom".
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« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2005, 12:44:55 PM »

Is KEmperor "running for re-election" for Chief Justice? No. It's a different situation.

If Lewis is running for re-election for Lt. Governor next month than I don't think he should be running either.
I'm not. I'm in the middle of my term, just like John Kerry was.
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« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2005, 12:45:27 PM »

Is KEmperor "running for re-election" for Chief Justice? No. It's a different situation.

If Lewis is running for re-election for Lt. Governor next month than I don't think he should be running either.

That makes no sense at all really. Its a dumb "custom".

I'm interested to hear why you think that.
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« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2005, 12:46:58 PM »

Is KEmperor "running for re-election" for Chief Justice? No. It's a different situation.

If Lewis is running for re-election for Lt. Governor next month than I don't think he should be running either.
I'm not. I'm in the middle of my term, just like John Kerry was.

I like the John Kerry comparison but I don't think that's accurate. It's different when you're in a legislative body. You're not in that branch of government.

I don't believe people should be running for two offices at one time. The "safety net" idea annoys me.
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« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2005, 12:50:37 PM »

Is KEmperor "running for re-election" for Chief Justice? No. It's a different situation.

If Lewis is running for re-election for Lt. Governor next month than I don't think he should be running either.

That makes no sense at all really. Its a dumb "custom".

I'm interested to hear why you think that.
I don't know why he thinks that, but I can tell you why it is:
Because it means the loser of an election, no matter how many votes he got, will be out of a job on election day.
And that, of course, is a big disincentive to all but the richest to run.
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« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2005, 12:56:17 PM »

From the way I see it, States doesent understand the difference between running for two offices at the same time, as he would if he had continued to run for president, and running for president but still be in the middle of their term.  I know in the last presidential Hughento, Akno, and I think Nation decided not to run for reelection because they were all running for the white house.  However Harry, htmldon and MAS all continued to stay in their positions because they were not up for reelection at the same time.

Since States has been here forever, I expected him to know this difference.

I think this tradition is in here just to discourage people from running for two things at once.  When you get down to it, the population of Atlasia has enough people who are hungry to run for something, and allowing people to run for two things at once discourages this.
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« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2005, 01:01:25 PM »

From the way I see it, States doesent understand the difference between running for two offices at the same time, as he would if he had continued to run for president, and running for president but still be in the middle of their term.  I know in the last presidential Hughento, Akno, and I think Nation decided not to run for reelection because they were all running for the white house.  However Harry, htmldon and MAS all continued to stay in their positions because they were not up for reelection at the same time.

Since States has been here forever, I expected him to know this difference.

I think this tradition is in here just to discourage people from running for two things at once.  When you get down to it, the population of Atlasia has enough people who are hungry to run for something, and allowing people to run for two things at once discourages this.

This tradition stuff is nonsensical bullpoop. The way the system is set up I can never run for president because my reelection comes up at the same time as every presidential campaign. I have the right to hold my senate seat as long as I want to and as long as I feel I want to. I hold no ties to nonsense tradition. If you want it changed, get a clue and make a law.
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« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2005, 01:06:06 PM »

From the way I see it, States doesent understand the difference between running for two offices at the same time, as he would if he had continued to run for president, and running for president but still be in the middle of their term.  I know in the last presidential Hughento, Akno, and I think Nation decided not to run for reelection because they were all running for the white house.  However Harry, htmldon and MAS all continued to stay in their positions because they were not up for reelection at the same time.

Since States has been here forever, I expected him to know this difference.

I think this tradition is in here just to discourage people from running for two things at once.  When you get down to it, the population of Atlasia has enough people who are hungry to run for something, and allowing people to run for two things at once discourages this.

This tradition stuff is nonsensical bullpoop. The way the system is set up I can never run for president because my reelection comes up at the same time as every presidential campaign. I have the right to hold my senate seat as long as I want to and as long as I feel I want to. I hold no ties to nonsense tradition. If you want it changed, get a clue and make a law.
Its not that you cant run for president, its that you have to make a choice.  And if youre truly interested in running for president, like Hugh and Nation and Akno before you, you would choose not to run for reelection.  You have the right to keep your senate seat if youre not running for president.  Its not ethical to run for two offices at once, especially in Atlasia where people are chomping at the bit to win office.  If you really want to run for president, follow tradition.  If you wanted to run for both, you can, but expect less votes.  Its that simple States.
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« Reply #14 on: January 24, 2005, 01:07:16 PM »

From the way I see it, States doesent understand the difference between running for two offices at the same time, as he would if he had continued to run for president, and running for president but still be in the middle of their term.  I know in the last presidential Hughento, Akno, and I think Nation decided not to run for reelection because they were all running for the white house.  However Harry, htmldon and MAS all continued to stay in their positions because they were not up for reelection at the same time.

Since States has been here forever, I expected him to know this difference.

I think this tradition is in here just to discourage people from running for two things at once.  When you get down to it, the population of Atlasia has enough people who are hungry to run for something, and allowing people to run for two things at once discourages this.

This tradition stuff is nonsensical bullpoop. The way the system is set up I can never run for president because my reelection comes up at the same time as every presidential campaign. I have the right to hold my senate seat as long as I want to and as long as I feel I want to.
...and as long as the voters permit.
Good point you're bringing up about your senate seat always up at the same time as presidential elections, that doesn't happen in the real life Senate.
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« Reply #15 on: January 24, 2005, 01:07:41 PM »

From the way I see it, States doesent understand the difference between running for two offices at the same time, as he would if he had continued to run for president, and running for president but still be in the middle of their term.  I know in the last presidential Hughento, Akno, and I think Nation decided not to run for reelection because they were all running for the white house.  However Harry, htmldon and MAS all continued to stay in their positions because they were not up for reelection at the same time.

Since States has been here forever, I expected him to know this difference.

I think this tradition is in here just to discourage people from running for two things at once.  When you get down to it, the population of Atlasia has enough people who are hungry to run for something, and allowing people to run for two things at once discourages this.

This tradition stuff is nonsensical bullpoop. The way the system is set up I can never run for president because my reelection comes up at the same time as every presidential campaign. I have the right to hold my senate seat as long as I want to and as long as I feel I want to. I hold no ties to nonsense tradition. If you want it changed, get a clue and make a law.
Its not that you cant run for president, its that you have to make a choice.  And if youre truly interested in running for president, like Hugh and Nation and Akno before you, you would choose not to run for reelection.  You have the right to keep your senate seat if youre not running for president.  Its not ethical to run for two offices at once, especially in Atlasia where people are chomping at the bit to win office.  If you really want to run for president, follow tradition.  If you wanted to run for both, you can, but expect less votes.  Its that simple States.

You're wrong of course. But believe what you want.
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« Reply #16 on: January 24, 2005, 01:10:25 PM »

From the way I see it, States doesent understand the difference between running for two offices at the same time, as he would if he had continued to run for president, and running for president but still be in the middle of their term.  I know in the last presidential Hughento, Akno, and I think Nation decided not to run for reelection because they were all running for the white house.  However Harry, htmldon and MAS all continued to stay in their positions because they were not up for reelection at the same time.

Since States has been here forever, I expected him to know this difference.

I think this tradition is in here just to discourage people from running for two things at once.  When you get down to it, the population of Atlasia has enough people who are hungry to run for something, and allowing people to run for two things at once discourages this.

This tradition stuff is nonsensical bullpoop. The way the system is set up I can never run for president because my reelection comes up at the same time as every presidential campaign. I have the right to hold my senate seat as long as I want to and as long as I feel I want to. I hold no ties to nonsense tradition. If you want it changed, get a clue and make a law.
Its not that you cant run for president, its that you have to make a choice.  And if youre truly interested in running for president, like Hugh and Nation and Akno before you, you would choose not to run for reelection.  You have the right to keep your senate seat if youre not running for president.  Its not ethical to run for two offices at once, especially in Atlasia where people are chomping at the bit to win office.  If you really want to run for president, follow tradition.  If you wanted to run for both, you can, but expect less votes.  Its that simple States.

You're wrong of course. But believe what you want.
How am I "wrong of course?"
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« Reply #17 on: January 24, 2005, 01:14:06 PM »

I’m glad you’re showing your level of class and maturity as of late, states.     
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« Reply #18 on: January 24, 2005, 03:38:44 PM »

I don't care what you do States and neither should anybody else. Do you really care that much that he was running for both offices? I mean seriously its not like its a huge issue. If he looses both races than its a non-event if he runs for both and looses the Presidential race than he becomes Senator again. If its the other way around theirs a special election. Is this so horrible? While decorum and tradition states that its better to run for one office and only one office their is no law banning running for two offices.

If you don't like the idea don't vote for him. If you care so deeply about what really is a petty issue than just don't vote for him. It's that simple.
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