Is Bane the supervillain version of Bandit?
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« on: August 06, 2012, 08:25:33 PM »

I finally got to watch TDKR. Tongue
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« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2012, 10:33:06 PM »

I definitely get more of an opebo vibe, what with his talking about banning people solely for being rich.
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« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2012, 10:42:48 PM »

I definitely get more of an opebo vibe, what with his talking about banning people solely for being rich.

Plus his eloquence, virtual anonymity, and length of time spent in a foreign hellhole.  The physique is way off though, of course.
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« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2012, 11:27:31 PM »

I'm not really a follower - and certainly not an expert - of Batman or the superhero genre, although I thoroughly enjoyed the movies. I say this because I may be completely off track in this post, or my ideas and theories (if that's the right word) here may have been elaborated upon far further elsewhere - if so, I apologise, I haven't done any research into it, they're just my observations. The thing I noticed, though, is that the villains tend to be criminal archtypes or the personification of certain types of crime.

The Penguin = Unbridled greed/white collar crime,
The Riddler = Criminal Mastermind, (organised crime?)
Two Face = Bribery and Government Corruption,
Catwoman = Femme Fatale and lesser greed and obviously cat burglary (so greed for single objects, jewellery, works of art, etc, contrasted with The Penguin, who is more of a corporate fat cat),
The Joker = Anarchy/chaos/violence for the sake of violence.

Following this model, Bane would therefore not represent any real ideology, but rather I'd class him as violence justified in the name of revolution and terrorism more generally (or perhaps it could be said, violence justified in the name of ideology?). The type of revolution is insignificant - whether it's a Timothy McVeigh right-wing "libertarian/overthrow the corrupt government" type of revolution or a socialist revolution - indeed, I think at various times, he advances both types of arguments... I really don't think an individual ideology is important. It's probably much easier, though, to use socialist ideology as the main thrust for a revolution, so I'd say that's why it comes across more strongly in the movie, rather than a more right-wing ideology.


The socialist argument used throughout is quite obvious, and I think the parallel was drawn to the French Revolution very clearly, but I think that the right-wing anti-government libertarian style revolutionary/terrorist can be seen in the storming of the Bastille scene, where he argues that the organised criminals who had been imprisoned under the Dent Act were the political prisoners of a corrupt government, under an Law named in honour of a corrupt government official. I thought it particularly apt that the personification of violent revolution blamed the personification of corruption, just as a Timothy McVeigh type might blame corruption itself.


Also, given the strong French Revolution theme running throughout, I especially loved the Tale of Two Cities quote in the eulogy.
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« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2012, 12:36:40 AM »

I especially loved the Tale of Two Cities quote in the eulogy.

As did I; that quote gets me every single time ever since I read the book for the first time.
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« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2012, 09:48:31 AM »

Everyone catches an OWS vibe from Bane's terror-pals. So why do so many viewers miss that Bane spends the first third of the movie manipulating the 1% in the same way? The thematic point is that he's taking advantage of the greed of both groups.

A pretty good point.
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« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2012, 10:24:31 AM »

Yeah, Bane clearly sounds like a left-wing strawman on several occasions.
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« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2012, 05:10:25 AM »

I definitely get more of an opebo vibe, what with his talking about banning people solely for being rich.

Plus his eloquence, virtual anonymity, and length of time spent in a foreign hellhole.  The physique is way off though, of course.

Well thank you for the eloquence comment, though I know nothing of this comics-book-character (he talks about 'banning'? does the comic take place in an internet forum?).  However my physique is that of a normal 'real' 40s-ish man, not a drawn comic - nothing to be chagrined about.
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« Reply #8 on: August 08, 2012, 01:15:38 PM »

I definitely get more of an opebo vibe, what with his talking about banning people solely for being rich.

Plus his eloquence, virtual anonymity, and length of time spent in a foreign hellhole.  The physique is way off though, of course.

Well thank you for the eloquence comment, though I know nothing of this comics-book-character (he talks about 'banning'? does the comic take place in an internet forum?).  However my physique is that of a normal 'real' 40s-ish man, not a drawn comic - nothing to be chagrined about.

I meant banning as in from existence.
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