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« on: June 12, 2012, 03:56:41 AM »

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jun/12/gay-marriage-anglican-church-warning


“The threat of an unprecedented clash between church and state over the issue of gay marriage has opened up after the Church of England delivered an uncompromising warning to the government against pressing ahead with controversial proposals.
Introducing same-sex marriage could lead to the church being forced out of its role of conducting weddings on behalf of the state, the church claimed in a potentially explosive submission in response to the government's consultation on gay marriage, which closes on Thursday.
The submission's warning of a potential clash between canon law – that marriage is between a man and a woman – and parliament is likely to put pressure on the prime minister, David Cameron, who has spoken out in support of gay marriage and already come under fire from supporters of the proposals for allowing a free vote amongst Tory MPs.
In a 13-page submission, the church says it cannot support the proposal to enable all couples, regardless of their gender, to have a civil marriage ceremony.
"Such a move would alter the intrinsic nature of marriage as the union of a man and a woman, as enshrined in human institutions throughout history," it says.
"Marriage benefits society in many ways, not only by promoting mutuality and fidelity, but also by acknowledging an underlying biological complementarity which, for many, includes the possibility of procreation."
The controversy comes at a particularly delicate time for the church itself, which is in the middle of a process that will choose a new Archbishop of Canterbury later this year to replace Dr Rowan Williams.”
The church's submission came under fire from gay rights campaigners such as Peter Tatchell, who accused it of "scaremongering, exaggerating the effects of same-sex marriage and advocating legal discrimination".
He added: "The government's proposals concern only civil marriages in register offices. They will have no impact on faith organisations or places of worship. Senior churchmen are protesting against a law change that will not affect them.
"They have no right to demand that gay couples should be banned from civil marriage ceremonies."

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Which is fun. Threatening disestablishment? Nice Cheesy Tatchell is of course right. Most of the submissions against gay marriage deliberately obfuscate the issue. Some politicians in response are dumb enough to fall for it, which means I have to doubt their integrity as law makers if they can’t understand the nuances of a basic bill.

In other news, a majority of MSP's have signed the Equal Marriage pledge in Scotland. If the government do not introduce a bill then it is likely that a single member's bill will be introduced.
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« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2012, 04:16:04 AM »

Disestablish them already for God's sake (no pun intended). How backward are we as a country that one of our ministers bangs on about "aggressive secularism"?
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« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2012, 05:22:09 AM »

Disestablish them already for God's sake (no pun intended). How backward are we as a country that one of our ministers bangs on about "aggressive secularism"?

Or David Lammy for that matter.
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« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2012, 12:11:52 PM »

I hope they do.
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« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2012, 05:01:20 AM »

As the resident Anglican on this forum, I disagree with the church's position here. If you don't like it, so what? Bishops can decline to have gay marriages in their church if they wish.
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« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2012, 03:54:13 PM »

Until a few years ago the Angelican church would not remarry divorced people, didn't stop it from being legal for people to have a civil second marriage. Roll Eyes

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