Atlasian Sovereignity Restoration Act

[Bono]

A BILL

To end membership of Atlasia in the United Nations.

      Be it enacted by the Senate of the United Forum in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

      This Act may be cited as the `Atlasian Sovereignty Restoration Act'.

SEC. 2. REPEAL OF UNITED NATIONS PARTICIPATION ACT.

      (a) REPEAL- The United Nations Participation Act of 1945 (Public Law 79-264, 22 U.S.C. 287-287e) is repealed.

      (b) TERMINATION OF PARTICIPATION IN UNITED NATIONS- The President shall terminate all participation by Atlasia in the United Nations, and any organ, specialized agency, commission, or other formally affiliated body of the United Nations.

      (c) CLOSURE OF ATLASIAN MISSION TO UNITED NATIONS- The Atlasian Mission to the United Nations is closed. Any remaining functions of such office shall not be carried out.

SEC. 3. REPEAL OF UNITED NATIONS HEADQUARTERS AGREEMENT ACT.

      (a) REPEAL- The United Nations Headquarters Agreement Act (Public Law 80-357) is repealed.

      (b) WITHDRAWAL- Atlasia withdraws from the agreement between the Atlasia and the United Nations regarding the headquarters of the United Nations (signed at Lake Success, New York, on June 26, 1947, which was brought into effect by the United Nations Headquarters Agreement Act).

SEC. 4. ATLASIAN ASSESSED AND VOLUNTARY CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE UNITED NATIONS.

      (a) TERMINATION- No funds are authorized to be appropriated or otherwise made available for assessed or voluntary contributions of Atlasia to the United Nations or any organ, specialized agency, commission or other formally affiliated body thereof, except that funds may be appropriated to facilitate withdrawal of Atlasian personnel and equipment. Upon termination of Atlasian membership, no payments shall be made to the United Nations or any organ, specialized agency, commission or other formally affiliated body thereof, out of any funds appropriated prior to such termination or out of any other funds available for such purposes.

      (b) APPLICATION- The provisions of this section shall apply to all agencies of the United Nations, including independent or voluntary agencies.

SEC. 5. UNITED NATIONS PEACEKEEPING OPERATIONS.

      (a) TERMINATION- No funds are authorized to be appropriated or otherwise made available for any Atlasian contribution to any United Nations military operation.

      (b) TERMINATIONS OF ATLASIAN PARTICIPATION IN UNITED NATIONS PEACEKEEPING OPERATIONS- No funds may be obligated or expended to support the participation of any member of the Armed Forces of the Atlasia as part of any United Nations military or peacekeeping operation or force. No member of the Armed Forces of Atlasia may serve under the command of the United Nations.

SEC. 6. WITHDRAWAL OF UNITED NATIONS PRESENCE IN FACILITIES OF THE GOVERNMENT OF ATLASIA AND REPEAL OF DIPLOMATIC IMMUNITY.

      (a) WITHDRAWAL FROM ATLASIAN GOVERNMENT PROPERTY- The United Nations (including any affiliated agency of the United Nations) shall not occupy or use any property or facility of the Atlasian Government.

      (b) DIPLOMATIC IMMUNITY- No officer or employee of the United Nations or any representative, officer, or employee of any mission to the United Nations of any foreign government shall be entitled to enjoy the privileges and immunities of the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations of April 18, 1961, nor may any such privileges and immunities be extended to any such individual. The privileges, exemptions and immunities provided for in the International Organizations Immunities Act of December 29, 1945 (59 Stat. 669; 22 U.S.C. 288, 288a-f), or in any agreement or treaty to which the United States is a party, including the agreement entitled `Agreement Between the United Nations and the United States of America Regarding the Headquarters of the United Nations', signed June 26, 1947 (22 U.S.C. 287), and the Convention on Privileges and Immunities of the United Nations, entered into force with respect to the United States on April 29, 1970, (21 UST 1418; TIAS 6900; UNTS 16), shall not apply to the United Nations or any organ, specialized agency, commission or other formally affiliated body thereof, to the officers and employees of the United Nations, or any organ, specialized agency, commission or other formally affiliated body thereof, or to the families, suites or servants of such officers or employees.

SEC. 7. REPEAL OF UNITED NATIONS EDUCATIONAL, SCIENTIFIC, AND CULTURAL ORGANIZATION ACT.

      The joint resolution entitled `A joint resolution providing for membership and participation by Atlasia in the United Nations Educational, Scientific, and Cultural Organization, and authorizing an appropriation therefor' approved July 30, 1946 (Public Law 79-565, 22 U.S.C. 287m-287t), is repealed.

SEC. 8. REPEAL OF UNITED NATIONS ENVIRONMENT PROGRAM PARTICIPATION ACT OF 1973.

      The United Nations Environment Program Participation Act of 1973 (22 U.S.C. 287 note) is repealed.

SEC. 9. REPEAL OF ATLASIAN PARTICIPATION IN THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION.

      The joint resolution entitled `Joint Resolution providing for membership and participation by the United States in the World Health Organization and authorizing an appropriation therefor,' approved July 14, 1948 (22 U.S.C. 290, 290a-e-1) is repealed.

SEC. 10. REPEAL OF INVOLVEMENT IN UNITED NATIONS CONVENTIONS AND AGREEMENTS.

      As of the date of the enactment of this Act, Atlasia will end any and all participation in any and all conventions and/or agreements with the United Nations and any organ, specialized agency, commission, or other formally affiliated body of the United Nations. Any remaining functions of such conventions and/or agreements shall not be carried out.

SEC. 11. REEMPLOYMENT WITH ATLASIAN GOVERNMENT AFTER SERVICE WITH AN INTERNATIONAL ORGANIZATION.

      Nothing in this Act shall be construed to affect the rights of employees under subchapter IV of chapter 35 of title 5, United States Code, relating to reemployment after service with an international organization.

SEC. 12. NOTIFICATION.

      Effective on the date of the enactment of this Act, the Secretary of State shall notify the United Nations and any organ, specialized agency, commission, or other formally affiliated body of the United Nations of the provisions of this Act.

SEC. 13. EFFECTIVE DATE.

      Except as otherwise provided, this Act and the amendments made by this Act shall take effect 1 years after the date of the enactment of this Act.

[Colin]

I like how you did it in the style of a UN resolution. I have spent enough years at Model UN club to know when someones writing something like a resolution.

To get back on topic, I support this bill and hope for my Senators to also support this bill. The UN has been nothing more than an outlet for terrorist nations and rogue nations to speak out and vote down Atlasia. I think it is in Atlasia's best intrests to get out of any organization that puts Libya, a known terrorist state, on the Human Rights Commitee. This is an organization that has constantly delt with terrorists over peaceful countries. In Palestine many UN officials are also members of Hamas, and Oil for Food has shown how corrupt this organization is. When an organization devoted to peace is giving millions to a cruel dictator who may have had future visions of conquest it is time for Atlasia to leave. So Senator I support this bill completely and thank you for bringing it up.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

While the U.N has numerous problems, has a structure that is very much a hangover from the Cold War and is undeniably in need of radical reform... but I fear that if we pull out, if we hide inside our borders, the horrors of the '30's will repeat themselves.
History does not repeat itself. But unless we learn from History, we will make the same mistakes, with the same devasting results again and again and again.
The U.N may be corrupt, incompetant and often useless, but it's all we've got.

[Akno21]

I like how you did it in the style of a UN resolution. I have spent enough years at Model UN club to know when someones writing something like a resolution.

To get back on topic, I support this bill and hope for my Senators to also support this bill. The UN has been nothing more than an outlet for terrorist nations and rogue nations to speak out and vote down Atlasia. I think it is in Atlasia's best intrests to get out of any organization that puts Libya, a known terrorist state, on the Human Rights Commitee. This is an organization that has constantly delt with terrorists over peaceful countries. In Palestine many UN officials are also members of Hamas, and Oil for Food has shown how corrupt this organization is. When an organization devoted to peace is giving millions to a cruel dictator who may have had future visions of conquest it is time for Atlasia to leave. So Senator I support this bill completely and thank you for bringing it up.

The UN's biggest strength is that it is so large that it ecompasses all views. We have organizations for developed, progressive nations. We have got to listen to the views of other nations, whether we like them or not. Will we get voted down sometimes, yes. We should learn from that. Everyone is part of the world. So if the world votes us down, it's just as likely that we have problems than that they do. We are not better or worse than any other countries. If you go in with the attitude that we are right and they are wrong, you will come out frustrated, every time.

[Colin]

I like how you did it in the style of a UN resolution. I have spent enough years at Model UN club to know when someones writing something like a resolution.

To get back on topic, I support this bill and hope for my Senators to also support this bill. The UN has been nothing more than an outlet for terrorist nations and rogue nations to speak out and vote down Atlasia. I think it is in Atlasia's best intrests to get out of any organization that puts Libya, a known terrorist state, on the Human Rights Commitee. This is an organization that has constantly delt with terrorists over peaceful countries. In Palestine many UN officials are also members of Hamas, and Oil for Food has shown how corrupt this organization is. When an organization devoted to peace is giving millions to a cruel dictator who may have had future visions of conquest it is time for Atlasia to leave. So Senator I support this bill completely and thank you for bringing it up.

The UN's biggest strength is that it is so large that it ecompasses all views. We have organizations for developed, progressive nations. We have got to listen to the views of other nations, whether we like them or not. Will we get voted down sometimes, yes. We should learn from that. Everyone is part of the world. So if the world votes us down, it's just as likely that we have problems than that they do. We are not better or worse than any other countries. If you go in with the attitude that we are right and they are wrong, you will come out frustrated, every time.

What do we have to learn from totalitarian dictatorships like Syria and Libya? Why should we listen to the council of dictators? How can you say that Atlasia is the same as Syria, as Burma? How can you say that we are not better than a country that starves its people, rapes its women and would never allow a free election? Atlasia has long been a beacon of Democracy in the world along with all other nations on every continent where the value of freedom and the wonders of liberty are enshrined.

[Bono]

I like how you did it in the style of a UN resolution. I have spent enough years at Model UN club to know when someones writing something like a resolution.

Actually, this is a copy of H.R. 1146, with the needed ajustments.

[Colin]

I like how you did it in the style of a UN resolution. I have spent enough years at Model UN club to know when someones writing something like a resolution.

Actually, this is a copy of H.R. 1146, with the needed ajustments.

Ah I see now. It just reminded me of all the resolutions from Model UN club.

[Jake]

While the U.N has numerous problems, has a structure that is very much a hangover from the Cold War and is undeniably in need of radical reform... but I fear that if we pull out, if we hide inside our borders, the horrors of the '30's will repeat themselves.
History does not repeat itself. But unless we learn from History, we will make the same mistakes, with the same devasting results again and again and again.
The U.N may be corrupt, incompetant and often useless, but it's all we've got.

The problems of the 30s are already happening.  In Rwanda, the UN and Atlasia sat back and watched genocide take place.  Just like Ethiopia in 1935.  In Afghanistan, the UN and Atlasia sat back and watched the Taliban take power. Japanese militarists in 1933.  In Iraq, we let a dictator repress his own people and didn't enforce rules against him.  Nazi Germany{Rhineland, Sudetenland, MilitaryBuildup}.

Finally, Atlasia is acting upon this threats and we've removed to regimes from power.  The 30s are not coming back.  The 30s happened again in the 90s. We are now in the age of containment and pre-emption, 40s & 50s ideas.

[Sam Spade]

I support this bill wholeheartedly and urge my senators to support it.

[Defarge]

Before formulating my opinion, does the UN actually do anything within the simulation?  Is it simply a carry over from the real world into Atlasia or does it actually do things? 

[Bono]

Before formulating my opinion, does the UN actually do anything within the simulation?  Is it simply a carry over from the real world into Atlasia or does it actually do things? 

As far as I know, and acording to the costums, it does exactly the same things it does in the real world.

[Akno21]

I like how you did it in the style of a UN resolution. I have spent enough years at Model UN club to know when someones writing something like a resolution.

To get back on topic, I support this bill and hope for my Senators to also support this bill. The UN has been nothing more than an outlet for terrorist nations and rogue nations to speak out and vote down Atlasia. I think it is in Atlasia's best intrests to get out of any organization that puts Libya, a known terrorist state, on the Human Rights Commitee. This is an organization that has constantly delt with terrorists over peaceful countries. In Palestine many UN officials are also members of Hamas, and Oil for Food has shown how corrupt this organization is. When an organization devoted to peace is giving millions to a cruel dictator who may have had future visions of conquest it is time for Atlasia to leave. So Senator I support this bill completely and thank you for bringing it up.

The UN's biggest strength is that it is so large that it ecompasses all views. We have organizations for developed, progressive nations. We have got to listen to the views of other nations, whether we like them or not. Will we get voted down sometimes, yes. We should learn from that. Everyone is part of the world. So if the world votes us down, it's just as likely that we have problems than that they do. We are not better or worse than any other countries. If you go in with the attitude that we are right and they are wrong, you will come out frustrated, every time.

What do we have to learn from totalitarian dictatorships like Syria and Libya? Why should we listen to the council of dictators? How can you say that Atlasia is the same as Syria, as Burma? How can you say that we are not better than a country that starves its people, rapes its women and would never allow a free election? Atlasia has long been a beacon of Democracy in the world along with all other nations on every continent where the value of freedom and the wonders of liberty are enshrined.

You cannot listen to the neighbors you like and ignore the ones you don't like. Are our governmental systems better then theirs, of course they are. But it doesn't mean we can't work them. If we hadn't worked with the USSR and Joesph Stalin, who by all accounts was a terrible person in human rights terms, we may not have won World War 2. We have organizations/alliances for the Progressive, democratic countries, and we also have the UN. It's easy to pick and choose your friends, but it's harder to pick and choose your neighbors.

[Akno21]

While the U.N has numerous problems, has a structure that is very much a hangover from the Cold War and is undeniably in need of radical reform... but I fear that if we pull out, if we hide inside our borders, the horrors of the '30's will repeat themselves.
History does not repeat itself. But unless we learn from History, we will make the same mistakes, with the same devasting results again and again and again.
The U.N may be corrupt, incompetant and often useless, but it's all we've got.

The problems of the 30s are already happening.  In Rwanda, the UN and Atlasia sat back and watched genocide take place.  Just like Ethiopia in 1935.  In Afghanistan, the UN and Atlasia sat back and watched the Taliban take power. Japanese militarists in 1933.  In Iraq, we let a dictator repress his own people and didn't enforce rules against him.  Nazi Germany{Rhineland, Sudetenland, MilitaryBuildup}.

Finally, Atlasia is acting upon this threats and we've removed to regimes from power.  The 30s are not coming back.  The 30s happened again in the 90s. We are now in the age of containment and pre-emption, 40s & 50s ideas.

Are you comparing the War on Terror to WW2?

[Jake]

While the U.N has numerous problems, has a structure that is very much a hangover from the Cold War and is undeniably in need of radical reform... but I fear that if we pull out, if we hide inside our borders, the horrors of the '30's will repeat themselves.
History does not repeat itself. But unless we learn from History, we will make the same mistakes, with the same devasting results again and again and again.
The U.N may be corrupt, incompetant and often useless, but it's all we've got.

The problems of the 30s are already happening.  In Rwanda, the UN and Atlasia sat back and watched genocide take place.  Just like Ethiopia in 1935.  In Afghanistan, the UN and Atlasia sat back and watched the Taliban take power. Japanese militarists in 1933.  In Iraq, we let a dictator repress his own people and didn't enforce rules against him.  Nazi Germany{Rhineland, Sudetenland, MilitaryBuildup}.

Finally, Atlasia is acting upon this threats and we've removed to regimes from power.  The 30s are not coming back.  The 30s happened again in the 90s. We are now in the age of containment and pre-emption, 40s & 50s ideas.

Are you comparing the War on Terror to WW2?

Yeah, Akno, because I mentioned the WoT and WW2 in that paragraph.  Stop trying to twist my words.  I was talking about the ineffectiveness of the League of Nations and how that repeated itself in the 90s with the UN.

[Gabu]

I will agree that the UN has some serious problems with it.  Every single time a crisis comes up, no matter how dire, it always is like, "oh no, you better stop that or else we'll use sanctions!"  It certainly is in dire need of reform; I won't argue against that.

That said, however, I worry about what it would do to our global image to simply pull out of the UN.  The UN was, and still is, an organization whose purpose is to provide a forum at which nations of the world can gather and talk about problems facing the globe, and hopefully conjure up an equitable solution.  Its effectiveness to that end is not what it should be, but that's what it's there for.

I feel that pulling out of the UN is a bit like throwing the baby out with the bathwater at this time.  I would be more in favor of pushing for an overhaul of the UN, perhaps starting with disallowing dictators from having a say in it.  Failing that, and once we've exercised all other options, then I would support pulling out of the UN, because then we can at least say that we tried and that it's not really our fault that we're fed up.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

This bill needs a lot of reworking before this becomes even practical.  (I don't think this could ever be made into something desirable, but right now its not even practical.)

Bono, the various international bodies that predate the UN have all attached themselves to it.  As you  have it written, thanks to section 4, we would be cut off from international telephone call, postal service, and air travel, since we would be forced out of the ITU,  UPU, and ICAO.  Not only that, I'm sure that the rest of the world will love not having to pay royalties on our patents and copyrights once we're out of the WIPO.

[Akno21]

While the U.N has numerous problems, has a structure that is very much a hangover from the Cold War and is undeniably in need of radical reform... but I fear that if we pull out, if we hide inside our borders, the horrors of the '30's will repeat themselves.
History does not repeat itself. But unless we learn from History, we will make the same mistakes, with the same devasting results again and again and again.
The U.N may be corrupt, incompetant and often useless, but it's all we've got.

The problems of the 30s are already happening.  In Rwanda, the UN and Atlasia sat back and watched genocide take place.  Just like Ethiopia in 1935.  In Afghanistan, the UN and Atlasia sat back and watched the Taliban take power. Japanese militarists in 1933.  In Iraq, we let a dictator repress his own people and didn't enforce rules against him.  Nazi Germany{Rhineland, Sudetenland, MilitaryBuildup}.

Finally, Atlasia is acting upon this threats and we've removed to regimes from power.  The 30s are not coming back.  The 30s happened again in the 90s. We are now in the age of containment and pre-emption, 40s & 50s ideas.

Are you comparing the War on Terror to WW2?

Yeah, Akno, because I mentioned the WoT and WW2 in that paragraph.  Stop trying to twist my words.  I was talking about the ineffectiveness of the League of Nations and how that repeated itself in the 90s with the UN.

How am I trying to twist your words? The League of Nations failed mainly because we weren't in it.

[Jake]

While the U.N has numerous problems, has a structure that is very much a hangover from the Cold War and is undeniably in need of radical reform... but I fear that if we pull out, if we hide inside our borders, the horrors of the '30's will repeat themselves.
History does not repeat itself. But unless we learn from History, we will make the same mistakes, with the same devasting results again and again and again.
The U.N may be corrupt, incompetant and often useless, but it's all we've got.

The problems of the 30s are already happening.  In Rwanda, the UN and Atlasia sat back and watched genocide take place.  Just like Ethiopia in 1935.  In Afghanistan, the UN and Atlasia sat back and watched the Taliban take power. Japanese militarists in 1933.  In Iraq, we let a dictator repress his own people and didn't enforce rules against him.  Nazi Germany{Rhineland, Sudetenland, MilitaryBuildup}.

Finally, Atlasia is acting upon this threats and we've removed to regimes from power.  The 30s are not coming back.  The 30s happened again in the 90s. We are now in the age of containment and pre-emption, 40s & 50s ideas.

Are you comparing the War on Terror to WW2?

Yeah, Akno, because I mentioned the WoT and WW2 in that paragraph.  Stop trying to twist my words.  I was talking about the ineffectiveness of the League of Nations and how that repeated itself in the 90s with the UN.

How am I trying to twist your words? The League of Nations failed mainly because we weren't in it.

You twisted my words by saying that I was comparing the WoT and WW2. I NEVER made that comparison. 

The League of Nations failed becasue just as the UN, it had no force behind its words. Germany had NO reason to follow its regulations just as Iraq had NO to follow the UN resolutions.

[Akno21]

While the U.N has numerous problems, has a structure that is very much a hangover from the Cold War and is undeniably in need of radical reform... but I fear that if we pull out, if we hide inside our borders, the horrors of the '30's will repeat themselves.
History does not repeat itself. But unless we learn from History, we will make the same mistakes, with the same devasting results again and again and again.
The U.N may be corrupt, incompetant and often useless, but it's all we've got.

The problems of the 30s are already happening.  In Rwanda, the UN and Atlasia sat back and watched genocide take place.  Just like Ethiopia in 1935.  In Afghanistan, the UN and Atlasia sat back and watched the Taliban take power. Japanese militarists in 1933.  In Iraq, we let a dictator repress his own people and didn't enforce rules against him.  Nazi Germany{Rhineland, Sudetenland, MilitaryBuildup}.

Finally, Atlasia is acting upon this threats and we've removed to regimes from power.  The 30s are not coming back.  The 30s happened again in the 90s. We are now in the age of containment and pre-emption, 40s & 50s ideas.

Are you comparing the War on Terror to WW2?

Yeah, Akno, because I mentioned the WoT and WW2 in that paragraph.  Stop trying to twist my words.  I was talking about the ineffectiveness of the League of Nations and how that repeated itself in the 90s with the UN.

How am I trying to twist your words? The League of Nations failed mainly because we weren't in it.

You twisted my words by saying that I was comparing the WoT and WW2. I NEVER made that comparison. 

The League of Nations failed becasue just as the UN, it had no force behind its words. Germany had NO reason to follow its regulations just as Iraq had NO to follow the UN resolutions.

I asked you if you did, I did not say you did.
Part of the reason it had no force was that several large forces did join. The Treaty of Varsailles had has much to do with the rise of the Nazi's as the LoN.

[12th Doctor]

While I am sensitive to the concerns of the Senator, I do not feel that this bill is appropriate at this time.  I would not seek to leave or limit participation in the UN before there is a viable alternative. 

Hopefully, I and Sec. Ford, will be able to produce that alternative, as I have asked him for help in formulating a bill calling for the formation of a Global Treaty Organization, which will act as a global NATO.

I hope to have a serious proposal soon, but in the mean time, I cannot support this bill.

[Defarge]

Having been informed by Senator Bono about the role of the UN in Atlasia, I cannot support this bill, and echo the statements of Senator Supersoulty.  It is not feasible to simply withdraw from the UN giving the current global rule the organization plays, regardless of its widespread inefficiency and corruption. 

I would support any alternative Senator Supersoulty and Secretary Ford come up with, including a GTO which sounds like a great idea. 

[A18]

This bill needs a lot of reworking before this becomes even practical.  (I don't think this could ever be made into something desirable, but right now its not even practical.)

Bono, the various international bodies that predate the UN have all attached themselves to it.  As you  have it written, thanks to section 4, we would be cut off from international telephone call, postal service, and air travel, since we would be forced out of the ITU,  UPU, and ICAO.  Not only that, I'm sure that the rest of the world will love not having to pay royalties on our patents and copyrights once we're out of the WIPO.

We can stay in those and leave the UN.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

This bill needs a lot of reworking before this becomes even practical.  (I don't think this could ever be made into something desirable, but right now its not even practical.)

Bono, the various international bodies that predate the UN have all attached themselves to it.  As you  have it written, thanks to section 4, we would be cut off from international telephone call, postal service, and air travel, since we would be forced out of the ITU,  UPU, and ICAO.  Not only that, I'm sure that the rest of the world will love not having to pay royalties on our patents and copyrights once we're out of the WIPO.

We can stay in those and leave the UN.

It would be doable, but as currently written this bill calls for us to leave them when we leave the UN.

[WMS]

While the U.N has numerous problems, has a structure that is very much a hangover from the Cold War and is undeniably in need of radical reform... but I fear that if we pull out, if we hide inside our borders, the horrors of the '30's will repeat themselves.
History does not repeat itself. But unless we learn from History, we will make the same mistakes, with the same devasting results again and again and again.
The U.N may be corrupt, incompetant and often useless, but it's all we've got.

The problems of the 30s are already happening.  In Rwanda, the UN and Atlasia sat back and watched genocide take place.  Just like Ethiopia in 1935.  In Afghanistan, the UN and Atlasia sat back and watched the Taliban take power. Japanese militarists in 1933.  In Iraq, we let a dictator repress his own people and didn't enforce rules against him.  Nazi Germany{Rhineland, Sudetenland, MilitaryBuildup}.

Finally, Atlasia is acting upon this threats and we've removed to regimes from power.  The 30s are not coming back.  The 30s happened again in the 90s. We are now in the age of containment and pre-emption, 40s & 50s ideas.

Are you comparing the War on Terror to WW2?

Yeah, Akno, because I mentioned the WoT and WW2 in that paragraph.  Stop trying to twist my words.  I was talking about the ineffectiveness of the League of Nations and how that repeated itself in the 90s with the UN.

How am I trying to twist your words? The League of Nations failed mainly because we weren't in it.

You twisted my words by saying that I was comparing the WoT and WW2. I NEVER made that comparison. 

The League of Nations failed becasue just as the UN, it had no force behind its words. Germany had NO reason to follow its regulations just as Iraq had NO to follow the UN resolutions.

I asked you if you did, I did not say you did.
Part of the reason it had no force was that several large forces did join. The Treaty of Varsailles had has much to do with the rise of the Nazi's as the LoN.

Hey! Quiet in the audience, the Senate is debating.




;-P

[Bono]

As clearly this hasn't got enough support, I withdraw this bill.