In a Paul Presidency

[Simfan34]

Shall we see a formal anti-Paul bloc emerge out of parts of the GOP in Congress that, with the Democrats, forms an "Anti-Presidential Coalition"?

[Roemerista]

Hopefully. For too long Congress has given up most of its important duties to the executive, out of pure laziness or timidity.

Probably not though, Congressmen are pusillanimous little creatures.

[Simfan34]

Hopefully. For too long Congress has given up most of its important duties to the executive, out of pure laziness or timidity.

Probably not though, Congressmen are pusillanimous little creatures.

I consider it plausible, as I think the GOP would want to run as far as the could from Ron Paul as soon as they could, and forming a formal opposition with the Democrats could help them stay viable after a presumably disastrous Paul presidency.

This could backfire terribly, I suppose, if Paul manages to convince Americans things would be better if Congress stopped stonewalling, or if Paul wasn't a disaster.

In 2016 we'd probably see a landslide victory for the APC's unity ticket/national government, with two moderates. Perhaps we'll see a third-party Liberal Democrat ticket. 50 state landslide for the APC, w/DC without a Lib Dem ticket. Partisanship is substantially reduced, but at the price of rapid centralization.

Now what I want to know is: who wouldn't go along with the APC? Rand Paul, obviously. Shall the pro-presidential faction be booted from the GOP?

[Bleach Blonde Bad Built Butch Bodies for Biden]

A Paul victory as a Republican would be the equivalent of a third-party victory, so yes, that would be very likely to happen.

[Peeperkorn]

Shall we see a formal anti-Paul bloc emerge out of parts of the GOP in Congress that, with the Democrats, forms an "Anti-Presidential Coalition"?

Yes, but you should call it "pro-establishment-and-bankers".

[Roemerista]

Now what I want to know is: who wouldn't go along with the APC? Rand Paul, obviously. Shall the pro-presidential faction be booted from the GOP?

It will be issue by issue, as it always is. As to who, those congressmen that saw Paul do really well within their district.

[TheGlobalizer]

Isn't that bloc already in existence?  Seems like that's the Mitch McConnell wing of the GOP.

As I've said elsewhere, I think it's far more likely that a Paul presidency results in a broad GOP coalition, with enough establishment types in the administration (VP and cabinet) to offset Paul's more controversial ideas.

[Simfan34]

You mean McConnell? Otherwise you've lost me.

[TheGlobalizer]

You mean McConnell? Otherwise you've lost me.

LOL, yeah.  Knew something was amiss when I typed it.  Fixed.

[Free Palestine]

Shall we see a formal anti-Paul bloc emerge out of parts of the GOP in Congress that, with the Democrats, forms an "Anti-Presidential Coalition"?

Yes, but you should call it "pro-establishment-and-bankers".

[California8429]

Shall we see a formal anti-Paul bloc emerge out of parts of the GOP in Congress that, with the Democrats, forms an "Anti-Presidential Coalition"?

It will be pretty much the entire Congress.

[Free Palestine]

Shall we see a formal anti-Paul bloc emerge out of parts of the GOP in Congress that, with the Democrats, forms an "Anti-Presidential Coalition"?

It will be pretty much the entire Congress.

Indeed, as most of Congress is bought out by the Israel lobby, etc.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Yeah, right. Socially conservative anarcho-capitalists should ally with socially center-left third-wayers in order to stop a socially libertarian anarcho-capitalist. It would certainly work very fine.

Maybe they might succeed on foreign policy, but that's all.