Daniels vs. Obama

[nhmagic]

If Daniels is as polished in the primary as he was in his CPAC speech, I have no doubt this guy is going to go on to win and then win the general election.  By how much though, is the question?

Maps please...

[This user has not been convicted of 34 felonies]

Daniels/Pawlenty vs. Obama/Biden:

[krazen1211]

Daniels/Pawlenty vs. Obama/Biden:

What you drew there is I believe the ceiling to a Republican candidate. Maybe CO, MI and PA can flop too, but that's about it.

That said, it makes no sense for Daniels to pick Pawlenty.

[This user has not been convicted of 34 felonies]

I put Pawlenty with Daniels so Minnesota could go blue.

[feeblepizza]

Daniels/Pawlenty vs. Obama/Biden:

Flip MN back to the Dems, and give IA and CO (maybe PA) to the Republicans. Then you've got your map about right.

[feeblepizza]

I put Pawlenty with Daniels so Minnesota could go blue.

Do you realize how hated Pawlenty is in Minnesota?

[This user has not been convicted of 34 felonies]

I put Pawlenty with Daniels so Minnesota could go blue.

Do you realize how hated Pawlenty is in Minnesota?

Apparently, not quite.

[Mr. Morden]

I put Pawlenty with Daniels so Minnesota could go blue.

Do you realize how hated Pawlenty is in Minnesota?

His job approval was in the 40s when he left office.  Definitely not good, but "hated" is a bit strong.  He was losing MN to Obama by 8 points as of December, when PPP took their last poll there:

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=129099.0

[Yelnoc]

Barack Obama/Joe Biden
vs.
Mitch Daniels/Marco Rubio

[Guderian]

Barack Obama/Joe Biden
vs.
Mitch Daniels/Marco Rubio

Color New Hampshire blue and that's basically the Republican best-case scenario, short of any national disaster in next 20 months.

[Yelnoc]

Barack Obama/Joe Biden
vs.
Mitch Daniels/Marco Rubio

Color New Hampshire blue and that's basically the Republican best-case scenario, short of any national disaster in next 20 months.

Fixed.  And the European Sovereign Debt crisis will most likely boil over in that time period.

[krazen1211]

Barack Obama/Joe Biden
vs.
Mitch Daniels/Marco Rubio

Color New Hampshire blue and that's basically the Republican best-case scenario, short of any national disaster in next 20 months.

I don't think MI can be classified as unattainable for the GOP. It's pretty similar to PA in that regard.

[Yelnoc]

Barack Obama/Joe Biden
vs.
Mitch Daniels/Marco Rubio

Color New Hampshire blue and that's basically the Republican best-case scenario, short of any national disaster in next 20 months.

I don't think MI can be classified as unattainable for the GOP. It's pretty similar to PA in that regard.

I considered giving Michigan to Daniels considering his regional base and economic credentials and the sorry state Michigan is in but, in the end, Obama's lock on the black vote will most likely rescue him there.

[California8429]

Barack Obama/Joe Biden
vs.
Mitch Daniels/Marco Rubio

I see this map as realistic. Nevada and Colorado will be a tough fight, but Daniels can take them

[nhmagic]

I think that Daniels is the type of person who could win one of the ME CDs.  If he has Rubio on his ticket, I dont think Nevada or New Mexico will be a problem considering the other states he is winning in the various maps (PA).  Colorado is fast becoming the "youthful popular cool liberal we're better than other people state" - dems will defend it with vigor.

[Its Evolution Baby]

Daniels would win, due to his appeal to the Conservative AND Independent base.

[DrScholl]

[Bull Moose Base]

1. Daniels has said his family could keep him from running and people close to them say his wife isn't into it.
2. No unknown has won a GOP presidential nomination since the modern primary.
3. Social conservatives and some fiscal conservatives find him unacceptable.
4. FOX News of all pollsters finds Obama ahead no <7% against any GOP challenger.  Adjust for their pro-GOP bias on top of that.... He'd comfily beat Daniels or any other Republican as things  now stand.  The map would be similar to 2008.  Maybe change 1 state.

[pbrower2a]

An argument that Mitch Daniels  can win depends on knowing

(1)whether he wants to run for the Presidency

(2)whether he can ascend to the top of a crowded field of challengers (presumed and affirmed) for the Republican nomination

(3)whether he would accept the nomination by the GOP at the Convention if offered it, and then  run a spirited campaign  against President Obama

(4) whether President Obama will fail catastr9ophically as President or have some discrediting scandal that makes him vulnerable

(5) if one of the four above is not true, then whether he is one of the greatest politicians ever, one who can defeat a formidable campaign apparatus and one of the best stump speakers ever.  


Mitch Daniels remains a longshot. He needs an "Indiana miracle" to prove himself better than President Obama -- and nothing about Indiana suggests that it is going to outperform the rest of the Rust Belt, let alone the rest of the US between now and November 2012.   All that I can guarantee for him is that if nominated, he flips Indiana.

Sarah Palin certainly won't. Newt Gingrich won't.

As a VP candidate? He would also flip Indiana, but if that is all that he can do, then the Republican nominee for President is in deep trouble.