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Oswald Acted Alone, You Kook
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« on: January 31, 2011, 07:56:35 PM »

Both of these I have seen tted as extreme right. What about all of you?
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« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2011, 08:30:48 PM »

     Fascism. Claiming anarchism to be extreme right is in itself a repudiation of what the terms left-wing & right-wing have been understood to mean throughout history & throughout the world, including in every country to ever have a significant fascist or anarchist movement.
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« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2011, 10:26:30 PM »

Anarchism. Fascism is is an offshoot of the left wing. Our constitution is the center betwixt both extremes.
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« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2011, 10:36:12 PM »

Anarchism. Fascism is is an offshoot of the left wing. Our constitution is the center betwixt both extremes.

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« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2011, 11:19:30 PM »

Lol at describing fascism or anarchism as left- or right-wing in an "objective" sense. A better answer is that fascism is extreme communitarianism and anarchism is extreme libertarianism, but even that is a gross oversimplification.
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« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2011, 11:25:54 PM »

anarchism could be part of an extreme right-wing ideology, just as it could be part of an extreme left-wing ideology.  anarchism itself would not make it extreme right-wing - that would depend on holding to some sense of traditionalism or restoration to the (imagined) past.  
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« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2011, 12:10:16 AM »

Think of it like a circle... Anarchism on the bottom, fascism on top, with center left on the center-left part of hte circle and center right on the center-right part.

The bottom left quadrant would be the liberals and radicals, eventually leading to anarchism.

The bottom right would be libertarians.

The top left would be the communitarian and statists eventually moving to fascism while the upper right would be "conservatism" and reactionary as you move up.

Fascism and anarchism are both neither left nor right wing... but are ideologies of their own.

If you were to try and assign these all to a single left-right line... you'd have to put both fascism and anarchism in the middle because neither advocates for strict economic or social policies that can be fitted to a singular line.
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« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2011, 05:39:55 PM »

Fascism on such a spectrum.
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« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2011, 07:53:32 PM »

Lol at describing fascism or anarchism as left- or right-wing in an "objective" sense. A better answer is that fascism is extreme communitarianism and anarchism is extreme libertarianism, but even that is a gross oversimplification.
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« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2011, 08:08:14 PM »

Think of it like a circle... Anarchism on the bottom, fascism on top, with center left on the center-left part of hte circle and center right on the center-right part.

The bottom left quadrant would be the liberals and radicals, eventually leading to anarchism.

The bottom right would be libertarians.

The top left would be the communitarian and statists eventually moving to fascism while the upper right would be "conservatism" and reactionary as you move up.

Fascism and anarchism are both neither left nor right wing... but are ideologies of their own.

If you were to try and assign these all to a single left-right line... you'd have to put both fascism and anarchism in the middle because neither advocates for strict economic or social policies that can be fitted to a singular line.

Linear political spectrums are so passe'.
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« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2011, 08:13:45 PM »

Depends on the definition of "Right-wing", I voted anarchy simply to be a contradiction to the term.
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« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2011, 05:29:42 AM »

Neither option is applicable. The extreme right wing is relative on a country by country basis. It also requires that we first establish what is meant by "right" or "left" to avoid confusion, since there are at least a few different ways to go about this. That being said, in the U.S. I would consider the fringes of the right wing to mostly consist of religious fundamentalists, neo-Nazis, neo-Confederates, anti-statist militias, nativist vigilantes, militant pro-lifers, minarchists, anarcho-capitalists, "sovereign persons," and the most hardcore of conservative conspiracy theorists.
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« Reply #12 on: February 02, 2011, 08:41:36 PM »

Lol at describing fascism or anarchism as left- or right-wing in an "objective" sense. A better answer is that fascism is extreme communitarianism and anarchism is extreme libertarianism, but even that is a gross oversimplification.

Exactly...

Anarchism. Fascism is is an offshoot of the left wing. Our constitution is the center betwixt both extremes.

Like most your types... pick up a bloody political science textbook!!!... just because German Fascism came about through the German Worker Party... by the time Hitler and Rohm had taken over by 1924 it had become a militaristic, authoritarian, nationalist ideology. Just like Mussolini, it had nothing to do with left-wing ... anything.

I know you think if it's left-wing, therefore it's evil... but all evil things are not left-wing... find a respected political scientist that thinks fascism as practiced is anything but ULTRA right-wing.

But frankly, I personally believe in the circular political spectrum which has Stalinism and Nazism right next to each other - as totalitarianism.
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« Reply #13 on: February 02, 2011, 11:03:23 PM »

If those are the two ends, then extreme right wing and extreme left wing are both centrism.
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« Reply #14 on: February 02, 2011, 11:35:14 PM »

Well centreism is at the top of the circle, and totalitarianism at the bottom.
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« Reply #15 on: February 03, 2011, 06:03:04 PM »

Well centreism is at the top of the circle, and totalitarianism at the bottom.

Not many people would consider 'centrism' to be anywhere near 'anarchism.' Nihilism maybe.
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« Reply #16 on: February 03, 2011, 06:57:21 PM »
« Edited: February 04, 2011, 11:58:21 AM by Ghost_white »

In all seriousness outside of using them as short hand for third worldist/socialist/green movements or fascism/monarchism/whatever I don't really have much use for 'left' or 'right.' They don't have much meaning otherwise.. Especially in the US.
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« Reply #17 on: February 06, 2011, 02:18:04 PM »

The working definition of extreme right wing is virtually anyone who disagrees with a liberal on any meaningful public policy issue.
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« Reply #18 on: February 06, 2011, 02:49:28 PM »

The working definition of extreme right wing is virtually anyone who disagrees with a liberal on any meaningful public policy issue.

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« Reply #19 on: February 06, 2011, 09:50:38 PM »

The working definition of extreme right wing is virtually anyone who disagrees with a liberal on any meaningful public policy issue.

In hyper-reality land perhaps.

Gotta love hyperbole, it's so useful.
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