Federal Budget

[Bono]

Deleted the second one, since there was no point in having two of the same thing.

[Bono]

After talking with senators Harry and TexasGurl, I think the new version of this budget will gather enough support. I wil wait until tomorow. IF no new developments arrive, I will tehn make a motion to put it to a vote.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

After talking with senators Harry

Damned Boll Weevil!

[Akno21]

Education, training, employment, and social services ($36.44 billion: cut $45.35 billion)

$32.18 billion ..... Elementary, Secondary & Vocational education
    Cut $3.56 bil. from base of $35.754 bil.(-10%)
$0 billion ......... Higher education
    Cut $22.55 bil. from base of $22.563 bil.(-100%)
$0 billion ......... Research and general education aids
    Cut $2.88 bil. from base of $2.891 bil.(-100%)
$4.26 billion ...... Training and employment
    Cut $2.83 bil. from base of $7.099 bil.(-40%)
$0 billion ......... Rehabilitation services
    Cut $2.99 bil. from base of $3.003 bil.(-100%)
$0 billion ......... Other social and family services
    Cut $10.48 bil. from base of $10.487 bil.(-100%)

I assume you will send your children to private school, Bono.

For those who say that the regions will pick up the costs, you are asking the regions to pick up about $40 billion. Where will that money come from?

[Bono]

$35.75 billion ..... Elementary, Secondary & Vocational education (No Change)

The bureocratic crap goes.

[Akno21]

$35.75 billion ..... Elementary, Secondary & Vocational education (No Change)

The bureocratic crap goes.

There's a lot more to education, Bono.

Anyway, the amount of the tax cut (or is this just budget balancing?) will not allow parents to send three kids to private school.

[Siege40]

*Senator Siege looks up from his abysmal Math Grade*

I don't know if I'm qualified for this job... lol. I was skimming over the bill, there's some tax cuts I want to challenge, and some tax cuts I want increased. Also, cuts to services. Allow me to take in all of those numbers *gulp* and provide a good list of suggestions.

Siege

[Jake]

$35.75 billion ..... Elementary, Secondary & Vocational education (No Change)

The bureocratic crap goes.

There's a lot more to education, Bono.

Anyway, the amount of the tax cut (or is this just budget balancing?) will not allow parents to send three kids to private school.

You don't realize something very critical to this.  More money usually sloves a problem. In the case of education spending, it does nothing to improve a problem.  If we spent evrry dime we had on education there would still be many kids who couldn't read. If you buy a kid a new textbook evry year and a high tech calculator and hired professors to teach them, still that kid needs to  decide to learn. Money doesn't cure apathy unless you hand out alot of money to all the kids who reach a proficient level. Cutting education spending doesn't mean you automaticaly destroy public schools.  Education needs REFORM, not loads of cash.

[Akno21]

$35.75 billion ..... Elementary, Secondary & Vocational education (No Change)

The bureocratic crap goes.

There's a lot more to education, Bono.

Anyway, the amount of the tax cut (or is this just budget balancing?) will not allow parents to send three kids to private school.

You don't realize something very critical to this.  More money usually sloves a problem. In the case of education spending, it does nothing to improve a problem.  If we spent evrry dime we had on education there would still be many kids who couldn't read. If you buy a kid a new textbook evry year and a high tech calculator and hired professors to teach them, still that kid needs to  decide to learn. Money doesn't cure apathy unless you hand out alot of money to all the kids who reach a proficient level. Cutting education spending doesn't mean you automaticaly destroy public schools.  Education needs REFORM, not loads of cash.

I think the idea of bribing kids to do well in school should be considered:)

Would cutting education spending help the problem?
What is your idea of reform?

[StevenNick]

There's a lot more to education, Bono.

Anyway, the amount of the tax cut (or is this just budget balancing?) will not allow parents to send three kids to private school.

I have one word for you Akno:  VOUCHERS.

[Jake]

$35.75 billion ..... Elementary, Secondary & Vocational education (No Change)

The bureocratic crap goes.

There's a lot more to education, Bono.

Anyway, the amount of the tax cut (or is this just budget balancing?) will not allow parents to send three kids to private school.

You don't realize something very critical to this.  More money usually sloves a problem. In the case of education spending, it does nothing to improve a problem.  If we spent evrry dime we had on education there would still be many kids who couldn't read. If you buy a kid a new textbook evry year and a high tech calculator and hired professors to teach them, still that kid needs to  decide to learn. Money doesn't cure apathy unless you hand out alot of money to all the kids who reach a proficient level. Cutting education spending doesn't mean you automaticaly destroy public schools.  Education needs REFORM, not loads of cash.

I think the idea of bribing kids to do well in school should be considered:)

Would cutting education spending help the problem?
What is your idea of reform?

May I quote SteveNick's post below. Vouchers, Akno, vouchers.

[Akno21]

$35.75 billion ..... Elementary, Secondary & Vocational education (No Change)

The bureocratic crap goes.

There's a lot more to education, Bono.

Anyway, the amount of the tax cut (or is this just budget balancing?) will not allow parents to send three kids to private school.

You don't realize something very critical to this.  More money usually sloves a problem. In the case of education spending, it does nothing to improve a problem.  If we spent evrry dime we had on education there would still be many kids who couldn't read. If you buy a kid a new textbook evry year and a high tech calculator and hired professors to teach them, still that kid needs to  decide to learn. Money doesn't cure apathy unless you hand out alot of money to all the kids who reach a proficient level. Cutting education spending doesn't mean you automaticaly destroy public schools.  Education needs REFORM, not loads of cash.

I think the idea of bribing kids to do well in school should be considered:)

Would cutting education spending help the problem?
What is your idea of reform?

May I quote SteveNick's post below. Vouchers, Akno, vouchers.

How exactly do you plan on forcing private schools to accept the kids the vouchers would go for? Also, there simply are not enough slots to accept every kid who qualifies for a voucher.

[Sam Spade]

As a constituent, I find these budgetary proposals by Senator Bono to be a much-needed first step towards fiscal sanity in our federal government and a return of many of services (such as education and social welfare spending), that really should be provided and regulated at the state and regional level, rather than the federal one.

However, there is one problem I have with the budget and that lies in the realm of Veterans Affairs.  One of the only main functions of central government should be maintaining an adequate and ready army in defense of this country.  Part of this duty includes the veterans education, training and rehabilitation that Sen. Bono wants to cut by 20%, the hospital and medical care for veterans that Sen. Bono wishes to cut by 10% and the various other veterans programs that Sen. Bono wishes to cut.

I would sincerely hope that some Senator would persuade Sen. Bono to reconsider his cuts in these areas for the welfare and benefit of our veterans who have served this country most faithfully.

That is all.

[StevenNick]

How exactly do you plan on forcing private schools to accept the kids the vouchers would go for? Also, there simply are not enough slots to accept every kid who qualifies for a voucher.

I don't plan on forcing private school to accept anybody.  That would be immoral.

I do, however, plan on giving kids and their parents to make their own decisions about education.

It's called liberty.  I know it's a frightening concept for people who want to regulate the risk out of every facet of life, but really, choice isn't that scary at all.

[Akno21]

How exactly do you plan on forcing private schools to accept the kids the vouchers would go for? Also, there simply are not enough slots to accept every kid who qualifies for a voucher.

I don't plan on forcing private school to accept anybody.  That would be immoral.

I do, however, plan on giving kids and their parents to make their own decisions about education.

It's called liberty.  I know it's a frightening concept for people who want to regulate the risk out of every facet of life, but really, choice isn't that scary at all.

It's useless to give kids vouchers if no private school will accept them. Also, how many private schools are in the poor sections of the Bronx and other places. These kids walk to school now. If they can't walk to school, and their parents can't drive them, how exactly do they get to private school?

[Bono]

Ok, what do y'all think of this:
Annuling the cuts at veterans education, care and rehabilitation and housing and another veteran benefits, keeping teh otehr cuts in veteran stuff, and cutting 10% of medicaid grants, which would leave spenditure at 2.20783 trillion. What do you think?

[Jake]

Ok, what do y'all think of this:
Annuling the cuts at veterans education, care and rehabilitation and housing and another veteran benefits, keeping teh otehr cuts in veteran stuff, and cutting 10% of medicaid grants, which would leave spenditure at 2.20783 trillion. What do you think?

Excellant, just keep education cuts

[The Dowager Mod]

Ok, what do y'all think of this:
Annuling the cuts at veterans education, care and rehabilitation and housing and another veteran benefits, keeping teh otehr cuts in veteran stuff, and cutting 10% of medicaid grants, which would leave spenditure at 2.20783 trillion. What do you think?

Excellant, just keep education cuts

If he keeps the education cuts then he loses my vote :/

[StevenNick]

I'd settle for restoring the education budget in exchange for cuts in farm subsidies, the arts, and in some other areas.

[7,052,770]

I'd settle for restoring the education budget in exchange for cuts in farm subsidies, the arts, and in some other areas.

I WILL NOT STAND FOR CUTS IN FARM SUBSIDIES
Agriculture is simply one of the most important things for Atlasia.  If there is a bad year for farming, and farmers do not receive subsidies, then many farms will shut down the following year, causing severe financial hardship on them and a food shortage in the country.  Even without a bad year, it may take a subsidy to keep the farm running. 
Having enough food to feed the country is so crucial that the government simply must provide farm subsidies.