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« on: November 21, 2010, 04:40:20 AM »

that California and Connecticut will abolish their death penalty in the next couple years now with anti-death-penalty Brown and Malloy as Governors and both chambers in the state in the hands of Democrats by wide margins ?

What is required in both states to repeal it ? Majorities in both chambers and the signing of the Governor or something else too ?
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« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2010, 05:00:42 AM »

Pretty sure Connecticut will...although I somewhat doubt it will happen in California.
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« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2010, 08:42:15 AM »

Let's hope so!
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« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2010, 09:25:22 AM »

I hope not, but I expect Connecticut will do so.
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« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2010, 09:26:14 AM »

Connecticut just had a very high profile home invasion case wrap up... the criminal tortured and killed a man's wife and teenage daughter but he survived. Cases like that have an impact on whether capital punishment is repealed or introduced.
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« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2010, 10:16:59 AM »

Connecticut just had a very high profile home invasion case wrap up... the criminal tortured and killed a man's wife and teenage daughter but he survived. Cases like that have an impact on whether capital punishment is repealed or introduced.

It figured prominently in the campaign, too, but anti-death penalty Malloy won anyway. Makes me think either Connecticut is genuinely anti-death penalty or the people care little enough that a legislative repeal would carry no risk.
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« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2010, 10:27:44 AM »

Connecticut's legislature will pass it [if they haven't already] and Malloy will sign it.
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« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2010, 12:18:33 PM »

I think the recent Connecticut case may be enough to sway some people from voting for it.
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« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2010, 12:37:02 PM »

CT is the only state that carried out an execution in New England since 1960s.
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« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2010, 12:59:47 PM »

I hope not, but I expect Connecticut will do so.

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« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2010, 01:12:10 PM »

It certainly won't be abolished here.
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« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2010, 01:14:12 PM »

Connecticut doing so would remove it from every state in New England except New Hampshire, and New Hampshire hasn't used it since being reinstated, not to mention it currently has only one person on death row...
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« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2010, 01:31:43 PM »

As I grow older, I've begun to stray away from favoring the death penalty... life in prison seems so much more painful to go through (although you inherently run the risk of escape, although that's a pretty small risk).
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« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2010, 06:46:49 PM »

I really doubt it is going to happen in California, given variety of circumstances. However, the de facto moratorium, CA have now, is likely to continue. Full death row, new death sentences and silent death chamber.

But I believe CT may be next to follow NJ and NM,
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« Reply #14 on: November 24, 2010, 02:49:33 AM »

If you gave me favorable odds, I'd be willing to take a bet that California won't have any executions during Brown's upcoming term.

California relies on a very rare drug for lethal injections that only one company in the country makes. A few months ago there was an incident where a guy was scheduled to be executed the night before the drug expired so officials rushed to execute him. His execution was halted at the last minute by the State Supreme Court over how it was being rushed. The company that makes the drug has said they won't have anymore in stock until next year and in the past have expressed displeasure at it being used in executions. I think some states have talked to a British company about importing the drug but I'm not sure if anything will be finalized considering it would be even worse PR there. Getting an execution in California is already so tricky it becomes even trickier if you can't get the drugs needed and there's a supply bottleneck. That will no doubt increase the price and does California really need more spending now?

Actually a great argument against the death penalty from an economic standpoint, it basically requires states buy large quantities of a drug where 99% will probably go unused.
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« Reply #15 on: November 24, 2010, 01:34:59 PM »

hopefully both states abolish it. Not really a fan of the death penalty, never really was either. I'm surprised California still has it though, although I believe the death penalty is supported by a lot of democrats too.
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