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« on: December 21, 2009, 09:55:54 PM »
Adlai Stevenson vs Barry Goldwater

Any year/VP you want.
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« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2009, 10:05:29 PM »
Hmm, two candidates from opposing parties who only really won the South historically. That's going to be an interesting one to predict.
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« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2009, 10:18:23 PM »


my take on it, with a climate similar to 1960. (Used the 1960 map.)

Goldwater DOMINATES the West, but pulls out narrow victories in the South. PV is relatively close.
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« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2009, 10:20:50 PM »
Quote from: Dallasfan65 on December 21, 2009, 10:18:23 PM


my take on it, with a climate similar to 1960. (Used the 1960 map.)

Goldwater DOMINATES the West, but pulls out narrow victories in the South. PV is relatively close.

Yeah, I would guess it would depend on whether Stevenson were able to make the campaign all about foreign policy the way Johnson did in '64.
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« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2009, 10:28:06 PM »
It will be a blow out win for Stevenson.
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« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2009, 10:30:44 PM »
Uh.. why does the liberal Stevenson take Nevada, and why do MS/AL vote NOTA when both candidates are segregationist, one of which being very conservative?
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« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2009, 10:38:28 PM »
Quote from: Dallasfan65 on December 21, 2009, 10:30:44 PM
Uh.. why does the liberal Stevenson take Nevada, and why do MS/AL vote NOTA when both candidates are segregationist, one of which being very conservative?
Neither were really segregationist...
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« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2009, 10:41:07 PM »
Fixed.

VP"s are Kennedy,and Henry Cabot Lodge.
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« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2009, 10:42:23 PM »
well, goldwater was 'pro states rights' and i remember reading that stevenson would've let segregation continue. not really SEGREGATIONIST in the context of the word, my mistake.
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« Reply #9 on: December 21, 2009, 10:48:31 PM »
Quote from: tb75 on December 21, 2009, 10:41:07 PM
Fixed.

VP"s are Kennedy,and Henry Cabot Lodge.



I agree with this map. Goldwater was an extremist--he said that he was okay with using tactical nuclear weapons on the Soviet Union and Soviet allies. Stevenson is the only safe, sane, and rational choice.
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« Reply #10 on: December 21, 2009, 10:49:03 PM »
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« Reply #11 on: December 21, 2009, 10:58:46 PM »
Quote from: Mendeleev on December 21, 2009, 10:48:31 PM
Quote from: tb75 on December 21, 2009, 10:41:07 PM
Fixed.

VP"s are Kennedy,and Henry Cabot Lodge.



I agree with this map. Goldwater was an extremist--he said that he was okay with using tactical nuclear weapons on the Soviet Union and Soviet allies. Stevenson is the only safe, sane, and rational choice.

Vietnam was not an issue in 1960. thus, it's unknown if he'd make such a remark as the question wouldnt be asked. plus there would be no "Daisy" ads to destroy Goldwater with.

I still question why MS/AL are uncommitted, despite VP picks. Even with a man like Humphrey on the ticket, MS/AL would just vote R.
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« Reply #12 on: May 14, 2010, 12:57:37 AM »
For 1960 or 1964, blowout win for Stevenson.
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« Reply #13 on: May 14, 2010, 01:21:24 PM »
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Goldwater would've started his movement even stronger.
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