Chile 2009-2010

[Edu]

The phenomenon of separate gender voting booths is rather South American. Bolivia uses it for sure, perhaps Mexico as well.

Bolivia probably, but as far as i know Mexico has mixed gender voting booths.

That would be appreciated.

Ok, i got an answer for Xahar and whoever else who cares.

First i need to say that since 1968 we have, apart from the passport and driver's license, a National Identity Document (like this one from Carrio http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_NH75XBEyeEM/RyV8yJ3fcDI/AAAAAAAAAi0/HnCBCk1FPM8/s400/Carri%C3%B3+DNI.JPG) that is used for most of the stuff where we need some type of identification (buying a house, vote, etc). And this document comes with a number which is your identity number and it's one of a kind, there are no duplicates and it includes both women and men.
But before 1968 we also had identity numbers and a document but it was a different document for women and for men. The guy who invented this probably never considered that women would be allowed to vote, or buy a house or something, because it was usual that a man and a woman would have the same friggin number.
So, when women suffrage became a law, the best idea Peron had was dividing the voting booth into women-only and men-only to avoid duplication or mixing the numbers or something.

Of course after the unified document this problem was pretty much solved (except for the people who had the old document) but this law was kept intact for more than 40 years and counting.

Why did they leave it like this? Well, maybe it was because a lot of people who have the old document still don't die
But I'm inclined to say that it is because basically no one thinks this is an issue, and nobody gives a crap wether the law changes or stays the same. Having lazy politicians also helps.

Hope my post isn't confusing, i usually write pretty messy when i have to make a long post

[ag]

Mexico doesn't segregate by sex - that would be viewed as ridiculous here. Mexico does, in some cases, segregate by the last name. By law, there is a limit on the number of voters per booth. Thus, if at a certain precinct the number of registered voters exceeds that limit, there will be two, three, or even more booths in the precinct (w/ separate booth staff, though in the same voting place). In that case the voter assignment is by the last name, alphabetically. So, yes, I vote in a different booth from my wife, but my daughter, were she of voting age, would have voted w/ me.

[Bo]

I hope Pinera wins.

[Tender Branson]

Frei is gaining ground:

Sebastián Piñera: 52.7% (-3.2)
Eduardo Frei: 47.3% (+3.2)

Source: Universidad del Desarrollo / La Segunda Methodology: Telephone interviews with 1,203 Chilean adults, conducted on Dec. 17, 2009. Margin of error is 3.2 per cent.

http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/view/34736/piera_could_defeat_frei_in_chilean_ballot

[minionofmidas]

(one of the peculiarities of the Chilean electoral system, reflecting the country's traditional conservatism, is that women and men have different polling booths)

¡!

Only in South America and Lakshadweep.

[Hash]

Frei is gaining ground:

Sebastián Piñera: 52.7% (-3.2)
Eduardo Frei: 47.3% (+3.2)

Source: Universidad del Desarrollo / La Segunda Methodology: Telephone interviews with 1,203 Chilean adults, conducted on Dec. 17, 2009. Margin of error is 3.2 per cent.

http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/view/34736/piera_could_defeat_frei_in_chilean_ballot

Not surprising, given that Frei has lots of potential reserves with Enriquez-Ominami and Arrate's voters. I think a close runoff is the result to be expected, and that since the night of the first round.

[Tender Branson]

Still getting closer:

SANTIAGO (Reuters) - Conservative billionaire Sebastian Pinera is poised to narrowly win Chile's presidency in a Sunday run-off with 50.9 percent of the vote, pollster MORI said Wednesday, within the survey's margin of error.

Pinera was seen defeating ex-President Eduardo Frei, who the poll gave 49.1 percent of the vote, wresting power from the centre-left coalition that has ruled Chile for two decades since the end of General Augusto Pinochet's 1973-1990 dictatorship.

MORI said the poll had a margin of error of 3 percent, and comprised interviews with 1,200 people across Chile between January 1 and January 9.

Maverick leftist backs Chile's Frei for presidency

SANTIAGO, Jan 13 (Reuters) - Eduardo Frei, the candidate of Chile's ruling center-left coalition, won the endorsement of a former independent candidate on Wednesday, which could raise his hopes of beating the conservative rival tipped to win Sunday's presidential run-off.

Former film producer Marco Enriquez-Ominami had polled third in a December first round vote and missed the run-off, triggering a fierce battle between Frei and center-right billionaire Sebastian Pinera to woo his 20 percent support.

"Given the uncertainty that the right could block Chile's march toward the future, it is my responsibility to contribute what I can so it doesn't happen," Enriquez-Ominami, the son of a leftist guerrilla leader slain during General Augusto Pinochet's 1973-1990 dictatorship, told a news conference in parliament.

"So I formally declare my decision to support the people's candidate who won 29 percent of the vote on December 13," he said, referring to Frei, whom he had until now refused to endorse despite repeated appeals and concessions by the ruling coalition.

Sunday's vote is expected to be very close, and a new poll on Wednesday showed Pinera having a slight edge over Frei, a former president. Analysts have said it may be too late for an Enriquez-Ominami endorsement to tilt the balance in Frei's favor. [ID:nSAG002485] [ID:nN11148091]

Enriquez-Ominami said the right, now led by Pinera, was responsible for his father's killing.

Pinera, who ranks No. 701 on the Forbes global rich list, won 44 percent in the December vote while Frei took 29.6 percent. It was the first time the right had won more votes than the left in a presidential vote since Chile returned to democracy in 1990.

A poll published by respected pollster MORI on Wednesday showed Pinera winning Sunday's run-off with 50.9 percent of the vote, against 49.1 percent for Frei -- within the survey's 3 percent margin of error.

Few expect any major change to prudent policies that have made World No.1 copper producer Chile a beacon of economic stability in the emerging world, whoever wins.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN1313013020100113

[Tender Branson]

Time for my prediction:

Pinera: 51.08%
Frei: 48.92%

[big bad fab]

I'm not so sure Pinera will win.
Medias have so quickly announced his victory after the first round...

[Hash]

Sebastián Piñera Echenique 51,87%
Eduardo Frei Ruiz-Tagle 48,12%

[Hash]

Frei has conceded. Piñera has won.

It's an important historical moment that's not be underestimated. This is the first time the Chilean right has won an election since Jorge Alessandri's election in 1958 (though the right supported Frei - a Christian Democrat - in 1964). That being said, Piñera doesn't have a majority in either chamber and will need to rely, probably, on a bunch of independents and regional independents in both chambers. And his policies won't be that huge of a change, since the main tone of his campaign was focused on law and order rather than on economic stuff. Though I'm sure Election Politique will be able to say OMG PINOCHET IS BACK.

It will also be interesting to see where Marco goes from there. Maybe he'll rejoin the Concertacion and try to modernize it from within. Since Frei was too old, uncharismatic and represented the 'old' guard.

[Хahar 🤔]

Ugh, Chilean right.

[Bo]

Its good that Pinera won. He seemed to be the more appealing of the two.

[big bad fab]

One must hope a psychological step will have been made here and that, from now on, "normal", "banal" changes between right and left will occur.

And Pinera won quite clearly, even if with a small margin.
I really thought until the end it wouldn't be the case.
A momentum hard to break for "old" Frei.

And expect Bachelet to try to come back. It will be interesting on the left if MEO doesn't fizzle out in the coming months.

[CARLHAYDEN]

Good read from the Financial Times:

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/2585ae7e-0376-11df-a601-00144feabdc0.html

[k-onmmunist]

Excellent.

[Hash]

Nice way to make fake headlines. Also, there's already a thread on this.