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« on: December 16, 2009, 11:52:40 AM »

As I suspected would happen, another good man is going down in flames for standing up for what's right.

At this point, I hope Crist gets out of the Senate race and returns to being a damn good Governor.  I don't know what the options are at this point for those of us on the moderate end of the GOP, but they aren't pretty.

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Rubio Pulls Even With Crist In Senate Race
 
 A new poll has found that Florida Governor Charlie Crist's campaign for the U.S. Senate is currently in deep trouble. The new Rasmussen poll of likely GOP voters found Crist and his Republican opponent, Marco Rubio, are tied with 43 percent of the vote. This is a huge swing from just a few months ago when most experts believed Crist would win in a landslide.

While Crist's numbers have been in an almost free fall, Rubio's name recognition amongst Republicans has rapidly grown. The new poll found 34 percent of GOP voters now view Rubio "very favorably." In the same poll in August, Rubio's "very favorable" ratings were at 18 percent.

On the flip side, Crist's numbers have fallen off a cliff. Only 19 percent of likely GOP voters have a "very favorable" opinion of the governor. According to Rasmussen, that's a double-digit decline since August.

Crist's precipitous drops in favorability ratings are tied to Rubio's ability to link Crist and President Barack Obama, who is loathed by many GOP voters. Rubio has repeatedly hammered Crist's decision to support the president's $787 billion stimulus bill. The irony though is Rubio has admitted he would have accepted the stimulus money as well, but Rubio adds that Crist's problem was he supported it from the beginning which Rubio said he wouldn't have done.

The Florida GOP race is being followed closely by national political watchers to see what, if any, impact the tea party movement might have amongst GOP voters. In other political races, the "tea party" has threatened to run its own candidate if the GOP candidate isn't far enough to the right. The problem for the GOP is that if a tea party candidate can shave off enough support from the Republican candidate, both parties will lose.

For example, the Rasmussen poll found that on a generic ballot, the Republicans have a seven point lead over Democrats in the 2010 Senate race. But, if a "tea party" candidate jumps into the race, everything changes. Rasmussen found in a three-way race, Democrats would pull in 36 percent of the vote, the tea party candidate will bring in 23 percent and Republicans would finish last at 18 percent.
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« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2009, 12:03:35 PM »

Except that he isn't, not really, standing up for anything. None of your faction are - that's why you're getting butchered.
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« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2009, 12:20:16 PM »

Except that he isn't, not really, standing up for anything. None of your faction are - that's why you're getting butchered.

He's standing up for sanity, which unfortunately has few political advocates at the moment.
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« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2009, 12:29:59 PM »

It's not as if Rubio and Crist would vote differently in the Senate.
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« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2009, 12:30:21 PM »

Except that he isn't, not really, standing up for anything. None of your faction are - that's why you're getting butchered.

He's standing up for sanity, which unfortunately has few political advocates at the moment.

Since when is lying about your previous positions?  Granted he is doing it because of the lunatics on the right, but lying never helps.
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« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2009, 12:48:44 PM »

The main reason why Crist is going to lose this primary is the fact that he's governor of a state whose fiscal situation can be described as "in the toilet" at best.  The "conservative" versus "moderate" split may have enabled the race, but it won't decide it.
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« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2009, 01:36:39 PM »

Ah another little piece of news to brighten my day, not. I wonder if Tom Campbell has a chance in California. It seems that whomever I would favor in a GOP primary, would have trouble winning it - the curse of Torie as it were I guess.
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« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2009, 11:23:48 PM »

The main reason why Crist is going to lose this primary is the fact that he's governor of a state whose fiscal situation can be described as "in the toilet" at best.  The "conservative" versus "moderate" split may have enabled the race, but it won't decide it.

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« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2009, 01:09:26 PM »

I am actually backing Rubio here, so I'm happy. And to answer your monologue Torie, I too wish that Tom Campbell will be elected as Governor of California. Grin
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« Reply #9 on: December 19, 2009, 03:11:08 PM »

Although I am a Crist supporter, I do find it hard to believe Rubio has climbed 15 points in one month.


Polls from End of October:
 Crist 53%, Rubio 29%
 Crist 50%, Rubio 28%


Considering this month he said 'he would have accepted the stimulus money if he were governor', was critizied for flip flopping again cap and trade, and is being criticized for not voting for anti-illegal immigration bills.

Don't believe me?
 Watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RY1bvd-3m0U
and this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNg4gvWtAE8

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« Reply #10 on: December 19, 2009, 10:12:55 PM »

Although I am a Crist supporter, I do find it hard to believe Rubio has climbed 15 points in one month.


Polls from End of October:
 Crist 53%, Rubio 29%
 Crist 50%, Rubio 28%


Considering this month he said 'he would have accepted the stimulus money if he were governor', was critizied for flip flopping again cap and trade, and is being criticized for not voting for anti-illegal immigration bills.

Don't believe me?
 Watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RY1bvd-3m0U
and this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNg4gvWtAE8



Well, let’s look at the record:

In its survey taken from October 12 through 18, Quinnipiac had Crist up by 15 points.  The Rasmussen survey of October 19 had Crist up 14 points.  The R2K poll taken November 16 through 18 had him up 10 points.

All three polls are in general agreement.

Yeah, I know that Strategic Vision (ROTFLMAO) said that Crist was favored by 37 points in May.

Suspect Jeb will publicly endorse Rubio in January.
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« Reply #11 on: December 19, 2009, 11:06:36 PM »

Although I am a Crist supporter, I do find it hard to believe Rubio has climbed 15 points in one month.


Polls from End of October:
 Crist 53%, Rubio 29%
 Crist 50%, Rubio 28%


Considering this month he said 'he would have accepted the stimulus money if he were governor', was critizied for flip flopping again cap and trade, and is being criticized for not voting for anti-illegal immigration bills.

Don't believe me?
 Watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RY1bvd-3m0U
and this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNg4gvWtAE8



Well, let’s look at the record:

In its survey taken from October 12 through 18, Quinnipiac had Crist up by 15 points.  The Rasmussen survey of October 19 had Crist up 14 points.  The R2K poll taken November 16 through 18 had him up 10 points.

All three polls are in general agreement.

Yeah, I know that Strategic Vision (ROTFLMAO) said that Crist was favored by 37 points in May.

Suspect Jeb will publicly endorse Rubio in January.


53-29 = 24
50-28 = 22

I do think Jeb will endorse Rubio, but I think Crist will still win. If not, then I will support Rubio...
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« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2009, 12:14:09 AM »

Ah another little piece of news to brighten my day, not. I wonder if Tom Campbell has a chance in California. It seems that whomever I would favor in a GOP primary, would have trouble winning it - the curse of Torie as it were I guess.

I'm just curious, Torie, why do you prefer Crist over Rubio?
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« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2009, 12:30:29 AM »

I support Tom Campbell and Marco Rubio. I'm sane.
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« Reply #14 on: December 20, 2009, 12:31:44 AM »

As I suspected would happen, another good man is going down in flames for standing up for what's right.
LOL, Crist is a scumbag.
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« Reply #15 on: December 20, 2009, 01:26:40 AM »

Although I am a Crist supporter, I do find it hard to believe Rubio has climbed 15 points in one month.


Polls from End of October:
 Crist 53%, Rubio 29%
 Crist 50%, Rubio 28%


Considering this month he said 'he would have accepted the stimulus money if he were governor', was critizied for flip flopping again cap and trade, and is being criticized for not voting for anti-illegal immigration bills.

Don't believe me?
 Watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RY1bvd-3m0U
and this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNg4gvWtAE8



Well, let’s look at the record:

In its survey taken from October 12 through 18, Quinnipiac had Crist up by 15 points.  The Rasmussen survey of October 19 had Crist up 14 points.  The R2K poll taken November 16 through 18 had him up 10 points.

All three polls are in general agreement.

Yeah, I know that Strategic Vision (ROTFLMAO) said that Crist was favored by 37 points in May.

Suspect Jeb will publicly endorse Rubio in January.


53-29 = 24
50-28 = 22

I do think Jeb will endorse Rubio, but I think Crist will still win. If not, then I will support Rubio...

I cited the polls identity and dates.

Would you be so good as to identify the polling sources and dates?
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« Reply #16 on: December 20, 2009, 01:39:39 AM »

Let Rubio win.
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« Reply #17 on: December 20, 2009, 03:03:20 AM »

Except that he isn't, not really, standing up for anything. None of your faction are - that's why you're getting butchered.

He's standing up for sanity, which unfortunately has few political advocates at the moment.

Crist has no convictions so he can't be an effective political advocate for anything. Are you suggesting Marco Rubio is insane?
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« Reply #18 on: December 20, 2009, 03:45:21 AM »

Except that he isn't, not really, standing up for anything. None of your faction are - that's why you're getting butchered.

He's standing up for sanity, which unfortunately has few political advocates at the moment.

Crist has no convictions so he can't be an effective political advocate for anything. Are you suggesting Marco Rubio is insane?

Crist has no convictions to date. 

If a thorough prosecutor looked into his activities, they could probably provide him with some.
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« Reply #19 on: December 20, 2009, 03:47:16 AM »

Except that he isn't, not really, standing up for anything. None of your faction are - that's why you're getting butchered.

He's standing up for sanity, which unfortunately has few political advocates at the moment.

Crist has no convictions so he can't be an effective political advocate for anything. Are you suggesting Marco Rubio is insane?

Crist has no convictions to date. 

If a thorough prosecutor looked into his activities, they could probably provide him with some.

Haha, I was in a pretty dour mood until I read that, so thanks for making me laugh...
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« Reply #20 on: December 20, 2009, 03:52:35 AM »

A sense of humor is necessary, especially in the current political/economic climate.
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« Reply #21 on: December 20, 2009, 12:03:31 PM »


When I said this I meant that Rubio is a more vulnerable target than Crist and that Democrats could easily go after him in 2016 (when there will likely be Democratic coattails since a Democrat will probably succeed Obama).
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