This is why I'm not a Republican

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Words to describe Yankee:
authoritarian
populist
hypocrite
bigot
fascist
Nazi
reactionary
culture warrior
white trash
Southerner

Explain to me once again how I am a Southerner? The others are pure BS also, but this one baffles me.

[Alexander Hamilton]

Words to describe Yankee:
authoritarian
populist
hypocrite
bigot
fascist
Nazi
reactionary
culture warrior
white trash
Southerner

Explain to me once again how I am a Southerner? The others are pure BS also, but this one baffles me.

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=106168.0

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I am actually a former Protectionist. The reason I am not anymore, is I learned that it is usually counterproductive and doesn't achieve the desired goals usually.

Now if only you'd learn this is true of every other policy you wish to see the State more active in as well, you might become educable.

Oh so now I am uneducated because I dissagree with you?

Don't be a dumbass (though I know how difficult it will be for you to break from your nature). I meant educable in terms of ideological consistency and intellectual honesty.

As if you are intellectually honest yourself?

[Alexander Hamilton]

I am actually a former Protectionist. The reason I am not anymore, is I learned that it is usually counterproductive and doesn't achieve the desired goals usually.

Now if only you'd learn this is true of every other policy you wish to see the State more active in as well, you might become educable.

Oh so now I am uneducated because I dissagree with you?

Don't be a dumbass (though I know how difficult it will be for you to break from your nature). I meant educable in terms of ideological consistency and intellectual honesty.

As if you are intellectually honest yourself?

Yes, yes he is.

[Sewer]

Words to describe Yankee:
authoritarian
populist
hypocrite
bigot
fascist
Nazi
reactionary
culture warrior
white trash
Southerner
asshole
dick
assfucker
republican
dumb
sympathetic to the rapist cause

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[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Words to describe Yankee:
authoritarian
populist
hypocrite
bigot
fascist
Nazi
reactionary
culture warrior
white trash
Southerner

Explain to me once again how I am a Southerner? The others are pure BS also, but this one baffles me.

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=106168.0

You always did have a tendency to bring out the worst in me. That still doesn't answer the question.

[Scam of God]

I am actually a former Protectionist. The reason I am not anymore, is I learned that it is usually counterproductive and doesn't achieve the desired goals usually.

Now if only you'd learn this is true of every other policy you wish to see the State more active in as well, you might become educable.

Oh so now I am uneducated because I dissagree with you?

Don't be a dumbass (though I know how difficult it will be for you to break from your nature). I meant educable in terms of ideological consistency and intellectual honesty.

As if you are intellectually honest yourself?

Intellectual honesty is probably my best quality trait: I will never, ever try to justify myself, as you and your ilk do, by appeal to a higher power, as if to say, "I'm sorry I feel this way, but God told me to." All of my positions are bourne out of my own feelings and predispositions, and I make no bones about it.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I am actually a former Protectionist. The reason I am not anymore, is I learned that it is usually counterproductive and doesn't achieve the desired goals usually.

Now if only you'd learn this is true of every other policy you wish to see the State more active in as well, you might become educable.

Oh so now I am uneducated because I dissagree with you?

Don't be a dumbass (though I know how difficult it will be for you to break from your nature). I meant educable in terms of ideological consistency and intellectual honesty.

As if you are intellectually honest yourself?

Intellectual honesty is probably my best quality trait: I will never, ever try to justify myself, as you and your ilk do, by appeal to a higher power, as if to say, "I'm sorry I feel this way, but God told me to." All of my positions are bourne out of my own feelings and predispositions, and I make no bones about it.

And  when I have I ever appealed to God to defend my positions? I can understand why you feel the way you do. However Ithink you are wrong and deluding yourself into beleiving that you are right. I beleive that also desparately seek to be proven right and some of your statements on the economy I think bear that out.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Now if we could get back to the actuall topic at hand. I find it interesting that John McCain would support this kind of measure. Its not surprising at all considering how much he has changed but still just a little surprising considering he still claims to be a fiscal conservative.

[Scam of God]

I am actually a former Protectionist. The reason I am not anymore, is I learned that it is usually counterproductive and doesn't achieve the desired goals usually.

Now if only you'd learn this is true of every other policy you wish to see the State more active in as well, you might become educable.

Oh so now I am uneducated because I dissagree with you?

Don't be a dumbass (though I know how difficult it will be for you to break from your nature). I meant educable in terms of ideological consistency and intellectual honesty.

As if you are intellectually honest yourself?

Intellectual honesty is probably my best quality trait: I will never, ever try to justify myself, as you and your ilk do, by appeal to a higher power, as if to say, "I'm sorry I feel this way, but God told me to." All of my positions are bourne out of my own feelings and predispositions, and I make no bones about it.

And  when I have I ever appealed to God to defend my positions?[//quote]

Every time you post on social issues you betray the need of your faith for undivine intervention.

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As opposed to simply deluding myself into believing?

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I don't need to be proven right; I will be proven right, and time itself will do the proving.

[k-onmmunist]

A $50 minimum wage?! I support a $0 minimum wage.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

A $50 minimum wage?! I support a $0 minimum wage.

Thats Opebo's wet dream. Completely unrealistic and impossible. I beleive I said I would support a $10 or maybe $12 minimum wage at most. Hamilton and his cohorts have resorted to complete falsehoods to attack me.

[Alexander Hamilton]

A $50 minimum wage?! I support a $0 minimum wage.

Thats Opebo's wet dream. Completely unrealistic and impossible. I beleive I said I would support a $10 or maybe $12 minimum wage at most. Hamilton and his cohorts have resorted to complete falsehoods to attack me.

You said "at least $15."

[anvi]

Now if we could get back to the actuall topic at hand. I find it interesting that John McCain would support this kind of measure. Its not surprising at all considering how much he has changed but still just a little surprising considering he still claims to be a fiscal conservative.

When I saw McCain come out for this, I thought it was a clever ploy meant to catch the Democrats in the horns of a dilemma.  It would be relatively easy to scare or piss off seniors by pointing to the $460 billion in Medicare Advantage cuts in the bill.  But, if the $460 billion were added back, the whole piece of legislation would be way too expensive for anyone to support because it would have to be financed by tax hikes instead of spending cuts.  It was a clever ploy.  But it didn't work, because all Dems have to do is state the obvious, that the cuts are not coming out of guarenteed Medicare benefits, but out of Medicare Advantage subsidies to insurance companies, which we should never have been paying out in the first place.

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McCain is scum!

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

A $50 minimum wage?! I support a $0 minimum wage.

Thats Opebo's wet dream. Completely unrealistic and impossible. I beleive I said I would support a $10 or maybe $12 minimum wage at most. Hamilton and his cohorts have resorted to complete falsehoods to attack me.

You said "at least $15."

If  I did then I was exaggerating.

Now if we could get back to the actuall topic at hand. I find it interesting that John McCain would support this kind of measure. Its not surprising at all considering how much he has changed but still just a little surprising considering he still claims to be a fiscal conservative.

When I saw McCain come out for this, I thought it was a clever ploy meant to catch the Democrats in the horns of a dilemma.  It would be relatively easy to scare or piss off seniors by pointing to the $460 billion in Medicare Advantage cuts in the bill.  But, if the $460 billion were added back, the whole piece of legislation would be way too expensive for anyone to support because it would have to be financed by tax hikes instead of spending cuts.  It was a clever ploy.  But it didn't work, because all Dems have to do is state the obvious, that the cuts are not coming out of guarenteed Medicare benefits, but out of Medicare Advantage subsidies to insurance companies, which we should never have been paying out in the first place.

Yes I know it is a clever ploy and I stated as much about 2 pages ago but it got lost in the thread hijacking. That also begs the question, do seniors believe the Dems on what and where the cuts are coming from?

[anvi]

[quote author=Senator North Carolina Yankee link=topic=106156.msg2254738#msg2254738 Yes I know it is a clever ploy and I stated as much about 2 pages ago but it got lost in the thread hijacking. That also begs the question, do seniors believe the Dems on what and where the cuts are coming from?
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Ok, sorry, I skipped over a few pages in the thread.  That's a good question.  Is there any polling data on this?  My little bit of anecdotal evidence suggests that seniors don't believe Dems about the cuts.  That's why the ploy was clever. 

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

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Indeed. It depends on the polling company and the wording of the question but in general the polling bears out your annecdotal evidence.