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« on: September 10, 2009, 07:34:59 AM »

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/margaret-thatcher/6166487/Britain-and-France-feared-fall-of-Berlin-Wall.html

Secret British government documents to be published on Friday reveal the deep anxieties felt by Margaret Thatcher and François Mitterrand, the French president, following the fall of the wall.

The documents, published by the Foreign and Commonwealth Office, show that Mr Mitterrand privately warned Lady Thatcher that a reunited Germany might "make even more ground than had Hitler".

They also show that in January 1990, weeks after the fall of the Berlin Wall, Mr Mitterrand warned Lady Thatcher that the prospect of reunification was turning the Germans into the "bad" people they used to be.

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« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2009, 07:41:12 AM »

Heh. Though it is very easy for me to understand why they felt that way considering the history and all.
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« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2009, 08:19:41 AM »

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/margaret-thatcher/6166487/Britain-and-France-feared-fall-of-Berlin-Wall.html

Secret British government documents to be published on Friday reveal the deep anxieties felt by Margaret Thatcher and François Mitterrand, the French president, following the fall of the wall.

The documents, published by the Foreign and Commonwealth Office, show that Mr Mitterrand privately warned Lady Thatcher that a reunited Germany might "make even more ground than had Hitler".

They also show that in January 1990, weeks after the fall of the Berlin Wall, Mr Mitterrand warned Lady Thatcher that the prospect of reunification was turning the Germans into the "bad" people they used to be.



Good article, but I don't see how this is news.  I remember at the time that Thatcher made public remarks stating that Germany would revert back to its historical lust for military domination once it reunifies.  She did not mince words on the subject, even in public.
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« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2009, 09:36:36 AM »

Yeah, olds not news.
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« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2009, 10:44:13 AM »


yep, experience does help place things in context...and if I remember correctly, Thatcher's fears were one of the reasons why the UK didn't adopt the Euro (I didn't read the article, so I apologize if I am restating info).
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« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2009, 09:30:20 PM »

Of course, they loved Germany so much they wanted two of them.
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« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2009, 08:11:45 AM »

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/margaret-thatcher/6166487/Britain-and-France-feared-fall-of-Berlin-Wall.html

Secret British government documents to be published on Friday reveal the deep anxieties felt by Margaret Thatcher and François Mitterrand, the French president, following the fall of the wall.

The documents, published by the Foreign and Commonwealth Office, show that Mr Mitterrand privately warned Lady Thatcher that a reunited Germany might "make even more ground than had Hitler".

They also show that in January 1990, weeks after the fall of the Berlin Wall, Mr Mitterrand warned Lady Thatcher that the prospect of reunification was turning the Germans into the "bad" people they used to be.



Good article, but I don't see how this is news.  I remember at the time that Thatcher made public remarks stating that Germany would revert back to its historical lust for military domination once it reunifies.  She did not mince words on the subject, even in public.

The same for Mitterrand who was very kind to East German leaders. I should check, but there was an official visit, IIRC.
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« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2009, 03:53:54 PM »

The first visit of a French President in East Germany was when the DDR was nearly death. It was when Krenz was gone and Modrow was in power. This was a joke visit.

Thatcher and Mitterand forget something. History does not repeat itself. Germany of 1989 was not the Germany of 1933
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« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2009, 04:06:57 PM »

The first visit of a French President in East Germany was when the DDR was nearly death. It was when Krenz was gone and Modrow was in power. This was a joke visit.

Thatcher and Mitterand forget something. History does not repeat itself. Germany of 1989 was not the Germany of 1933
Oh, that's it, with Modrow.
Sure, a joke... but Mitterrand was very serious at the time.
He wanted to keep 2 Germanies, one Yugsolavia and one Soviet Union...
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« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2009, 06:02:04 PM »

But in the end say Mitterrand yes to the reunification of Germany. I doubt that Thatcher make this step first. She had an Iron Head Cheesy
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« Reply #10 on: September 13, 2009, 06:44:10 AM »

But in the end say Mitterrand yes to the reunification of Germany. I doubt that Thatcher make this step first. She had an Iron Head Cheesy

OK, pop quiz time: Who was the first to give Thatcher the nickname "The Iron Lady"?
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« Reply #11 on: September 13, 2009, 09:38:32 AM »

But in the end say Mitterrand yes to the reunification of Germany. I doubt that Thatcher make this step first. She had an Iron Head Cheesy

OK, pop quiz time: Who was the first to give Thatcher the nickname "The Iron Lady"?

I read somewhere Radio Moscow was the first to give here this nickname.
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« Reply #12 on: September 13, 2009, 10:59:06 AM »

But in the end say Mitterrand yes to the reunification of Germany. I doubt that Thatcher make this step first. She had an Iron Head Cheesy

OK, pop quiz time: Who was the first to give Thatcher the nickname "The Iron Lady"?

I read somewhere Radio Moscow was the first to give here this nickname.

Not quite. It was Red Star, the Soviet military newspaper. In 1976 after an anti-Soviet speech.
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« Reply #13 on: September 13, 2009, 12:30:50 PM »

Okay, a half point for me Cheesy
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