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SNJ1985
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« on: September 09, 2015, 07:28:40 PM »

One could argue that current European policies on asylum/immigration are encouraging people to risk death to come there, and that restricting access to Europe would actually save lives as opposed to endangering them. Perhaps if Europe's borders were completely closed off, not as many people would be trying to enter it, thus resulting in fewer cases like that of Aylan Kurdi (whose family had already been staying in Turkey for three years).

This article seems to prove my point:

http://www.wsj.com/articles/migrant-wave-inspires-others-to-attempt-trek-to-europe-1441668591

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Also, the idea that Syrian refugees only have two options - ''Go to Europe'' or ''die in Syria'' - is a false dichotomy. There is no war going on in Turkey, Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Bahrain, Qatar, Kuwait, or the United States. Aside from Turkey (which still isn't exceptionally poor), all of these countries are wealthy and have ''very high'' HDIs. Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Qatar and the United States in particular have actually been significantly involved in the Syrian Civil War; unlike Austria, Germany, Italy, Greece, Poland, Hungary, etc. Even if the Arabian Peninsula states can't be made to take any in (or if you object to their status as authoritarian states), that still leaves Turkey (which is at least a hybrid state) and the United States as options. The point is that their lives can be saved without Europe having to take them in. There are places outside of Europe that have both the ability to and are better suited than Europe to take in these refugees.
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SNJ1985
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« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2015, 09:20:13 PM »

Vincenzo Solano and Mercedes Ibanez, an elderly couple, have been murdered in Sicily by a migrant from the Ivory Coast:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/italy/11834743/Murder-of-elderly-couple-in-Sicily-fuels-Italys-growing-anti-immigrant-sentiment.html
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SNJ1985
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« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2015, 04:40:21 PM »

But this is exactly the stuff I tried to warn you about. This silly, reckless mass immigration policy "stresses" the native population unnecessarily and makes them agitated.

Cry me a river. Clearly racist first-worlders are the people we should sympathize with.

Well, we should certainly sympathize with the victims of the huge increase in crime that mass immigration has brought to Europe.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_and_crime#Europe

http://www.d-intl.com/2013/11/08/multicultural-sweden-explodes-in-violence/?lang=en

http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/5195/sweden-rape?anid=7
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« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2016, 02:31:41 PM »

According to the annual crime report of Germany's Federal Criminal Police Office there were 1.029 cases of politically motivated violent crimes (the majority of which being assaults and battery) perpetrated by right-wing extremists in the year 2014, an increase by 22.9% compared to 2013.

Assmuming that the rate of increase stayed the same we're talking about maybe 1.250 cases for 2015. That's roughly 3.5 politically motivated violent crimes perpetrated by right-wing extremists each day. Which means that statistically speaking there have must have been about 20 cases of violence comitted by right-wing extremists against other people since the beginning of this week (February 1) in Germany.

Some examples from this week include:

http://www.lvz.de/Mitteldeutschland/Polizeiticker-Mitteldeutschland/Angriff-mit-Messer-auf-Asylbewerber-in-Regis-Breitingen

http://www.presseportal.de/blaulicht/pm/50152/3243491

http://www.rp-online.de/nrw/staedte/krefeld/beleidigungen-in-der-regionalbahn-aelteres-ehepaar-bedroht-mutter-und-kind-aid-1.5739160

In addition, there was a case of a 21-year-old woman from Thuringia who admitted that her story of being raped by a group of asylum seekers had been completely fabricated:

http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/justiz/vergewaltigung-von-fluechtlingen-von-21-jaehriger-erfunden-a-1075977.html

So, Omega21, Beezer, and Tender Branson apparently had both the time and the inclination to post five cases of supposed crimes committed by immigrants in Europe. But they weren't able (or willing) to post at least one of the other cases I just mentioned, be it just to ensure a more balanced view of the situation.

Two wrongs don't make a right. The fact that right-wing extremists sometimes commit crimes doesn't make it OK for migrants to commit crimes.

Also, it should be noted that German authorities often try to cover up crimes committed by migrants. They often don't show up in official statistics.

Police and politicians in Germany have been keeping silent on migrant crime for years:

http://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/article151089556/Ende-der-Schweigekultur-um-kriminelle-Nordafrikaner.html

I'm getting the impression that left-wingers think any policy other than ''let migrants do whatever they want with impunity'' is racist.
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