Three Days Away from a Constitutional Crisis

[windjammer]

I must admit that I'm being surprised about how you literally went ballistic against us. We really did everything we could to make sure the ruling would be posted before the senators swearing in

[windjammer]

I must admit that I'm being surprised about how you literally went ballistic against us. We really did everything we could to make sure the ruling would be posted before the senators swearing in

You've literally taken months to decide a case. People went "ballistic" because they believed a situation could exist where duly-elected members- whose positions weren't even in dispute- wouldn't be seated for the entire session.

Well sometimes justice takes time !

[windjammer]

I must admit that I'm being surprised about how you literally went ballistic against us. We really did everything we could to make sure the ruling would be posted before the senators swearing in

We are not here to protect your feelings, you are hear to protect our constitutional rights.

It seems you are mostly here to be an ass hole.

Then enjoy playing the cowboy with your imaginary enemies. It's sad what you have become. I genuinely defended you when people wanted go lynch you in the past or were making fin of your personal problems but it appears you have decided to be part of the anti court vendetta.

[windjammer]

I must admit that I'm being surprised about how you literally went ballistic against us. We really did everything we could to make sure the ruling would be posted before the senators swearing in

We are not here to protect your feelings, you are hear to protect our constitutional rights.

It seems you are mostly here to be an ass hole.

Then enjoy playing the cowboy with your imaginary enemies. It's sad what you have become. I genuinely defended you when people wanted go lynch you in the past or were making fin of your personal problems but it appears you have decided to be part of the anti court vendetta.

It's not like Yankee was unjustified or wrong in any of his comments here and the RL court is treated at least 10x worse than these justified comments, at least on the left, IRL. “If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.”

No this was particularly unjustified. We took the case and delivered in time. This is just part of an another tirade against the court for no reason. It's not our faulft if the defense doesn't show up.


And regarding about taking the heat. I have been dealing with various threats on Atlasia because of ruling I made and when I was more active. I had to deal with various vicious assassination campaigns and as well attempts to write fake convos where I would be saying racist stuff to get me removed.


So I can take the heat, this is just disappointing to see he has become part of the same kind of mobs who used to make very hard attack against himself back in the days.

[windjammer]

I genuinely defended you when people ... were making fun of your personal problems ...

Who and where?

On the IRC before you started to play in 2014-2015. There was a particular psychopath who wanted to destroy him, made various vicious assassination campaigns against him, literally going personal although out of respect for yankee I will not develop this point further.

[windjammer]

No this was particularly unjustified. We took the case and delivered in time. This is just part of an another tirade against the court for no reason. It's not our faulft if the defense doesn't show up.

I will break it down for your:

Stating the problem:

And there is little public indication of what is going on. Who has contacted who, what is being done about it and what the steps are being done to avert it.

Stating the Stakes:

The new congress is set to swear in on Friday at Noon, and for the first time in my memory, the entire At-large class won't be able to take their seats.

Establishing the Constitutional Concern:

The At-large are suppose to represent the people of the nation in the Senate and thus without them the "people at-large" are effectively being disenfranchised and deprived of their constitutional rights.

Summarizing the Case's deficiencies:

It would be one thing if things were proceeding apace and we had some idea of what is going on and how long the delay might be, but we don't.

More on the Case:

The court case has been completely one sided with the Plantiff and a litany of third party briefs as well.

Criticizing the DoFE For lack of response:

However, there has been nothing from the DoFE,

Criticizing the AG for lack of coordinating legal representation for a Gov't agency:

the Attorney General or any representative thereof,

My own criticism of the court:

no guidance from the court on how to resolve this matter in the absence of action on the part of the defendant.

Criticizing the President's lack of interest or involvement:

No public indication of any involvement or concern from the President that his government is about to stumble into a constitutional crisis, and thus no way to know what has been said or done on his part to try and ensure legal representation for the DoFE.

Addressing a potential excuse for innaction on the part of the President:

Sure we made DoFE constitutionally independent to prevent his firing by the President, but that does not preclude ensuring representation or action in a court case pertaining to an election and the communication necessary to carry it out to avert a disaster of this magnitude.

Establishing my Personal Standing and Vested Interest:

I voted for my damn Senators, I want them to represent me beginning Friday.

Demanding public Transparency:

The people deserve to know what the hell is going on. Not on discord, not in exclusive chat rooms and PMs, but here on the damn boards.

Just 7.051282% of my post in anyway referenced the actions of the court itself. Are you saying my statement of facts is wrong. Did the court publicly state anything between the missed deadline and the issuing of the verdict?

No, you did not. So may statement of facts is correct.

Establishing that, I demand that you provide evidence of this being an "unwarranted attack on the court, oh my!"

You threatened impeaching the whole bench if we didn't rule a particular way but yes I'm sure I'm overreacting!

[windjammer]

No this was particularly unjustified. We took the case and delivered in time. This is just part of an another tirade against the court for no reason. It's not our faulft if the defense doesn't show up.

I will break it down for your:

Stating the problem:

And there is little public indication of what is going on. Who has contacted who, what is being done about it and what the steps are being done to avert it.

Stating the Stakes:

The new congress is set to swear in on Friday at Noon, and for the first time in my memory, the entire At-large class won't be able to take their seats.

Establishing the Constitutional Concern:

The At-large are suppose to represent the people of the nation in the Senate and thus without them the "people at-large" are effectively being disenfranchised and deprived of their constitutional rights.

Summarizing the Case's deficiencies:

It would be one thing if things were proceeding apace and we had some idea of what is going on and how long the delay might be, but we don't.

More on the Case:

The court case has been completely one sided with the Plantiff and a litany of third party briefs as well.

Criticizing the DoFE For lack of response:

However, there has been nothing from the DoFE,

Criticizing the AG for lack of coordinating legal representation for a Gov't agency:

the Attorney General or any representative thereof,

My own criticism of the court:

no guidance from the court on how to resolve this matter in the absence of action on the part of the defendant.

Criticizing the President's lack of interest or involvement:

No public indication of any involvement or concern from the President that his government is about to stumble into a constitutional crisis, and thus no way to know what has been said or done on his part to try and ensure legal representation for the DoFE.

Addressing a potential excuse for innaction on the part of the President:

Sure we made DoFE constitutionally independent to prevent his firing by the President, but that does not preclude ensuring representation or action in a court case pertaining to an election and the communication necessary to carry it out to avert a disaster of this magnitude.

Establishing my Personal Standing and Vested Interest:

I voted for my damn Senators, I want them to represent me beginning Friday.

Demanding public Transparency:

The people deserve to know what the hell is going on. Not on discord, not in exclusive chat rooms and PMs, but here on the damn boards.

Just 7.051282% of my post in anyway referenced the actions of the court itself. Are you saying my statement of facts is wrong. Did the court publicly state anything between the missed deadline and the issuing of the verdict?

No, you did not. So may statement of facts is correct.

Establishing that, I demand that you provide evidence of this being an "unwarranted attack on the court, oh my!"

You threatened impeaching the whole bench if we didn't rule a particular way but yes I'm sure I'm overreacting!

I see you have received your official Labor carbon copied talking points right on schedule.

I threatened impeachment if you were involved in a criminal conspiracy to steal the election. A labor revenge scenario so to speak.

Yankee I'm not going to escalate the point further but you know very much I never used the supreme court to favor my party.

[windjammer]

Alright I'm glad everything is desescalating and we have Always been in good terms! I will make the following points :

1) the only critiscism that could be made is the fact we were not visible and WE are sorry for that. However we can guarantee you WE were heavily coordinating to make sure the ruling was going to be delivered on time and WE did it. There are some elements that can't be held against is, notably the fact that the defense wasn't showing up. But in the end WE did deliver in time.

2) Thank you very much for explaining your sentence on discord but you have to admit that until now I have never colluded with anyone else to stage a Truman coup or whatever . You know very Well that I have been dealing with various crap various plot to remove me from the bench so when I Saw this quote + your thread about the ten years sc attempt with "history repeats itself" i thought you had jumped on that mob bandwagon as well


3) the difference between Truman and I it is that I very much detest discord so no way I spend hours on it to have my Brain poisoned 😅